{"conversationCode":"370-019","tapeNumber":370,"conversationNumber":19,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-370-019","startDateTime":"1972-10-19T21:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-19T21:17:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1972","startTime":"5:14 PM","endDate":"19-Oct-1972","endTime":"5:17 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:14 pm to 5:17 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 370-019 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 370-19\n\nDate: October 19, 1972\nTime: 5:14 pm - 5:17 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nRonald L. Ziegler talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 31-148]","filename":["370-019.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"370-018","nextCode":"370-020","transcript":[{"start":13.73,"end":18.42,"text":"Saa."},{"start":18.44,"end":18.9,"text":"Saa."},{"start":23.58,"end":23.8,"text":"Saa."},{"start":26.55,"end":27.01,"text":"Saa."},{"start":28.57,"end":32.98,"text":"Saa."},{"start":35.1,"end":36.62,"text":"Saa."},{"start":57.29,"end":81.05,"text":"... ... ..."},{"start":93.42,"end":113.06,"text":"And then I walked them back down and took them to the dining room."},{"start":113.08,"end":113.83,"text":"And then we had a meeting."},{"start":113.84,"end":116.59,"text":"Well, they didn't have a word to each other."},{"start":116.61,"end":117.21,"text":"Yeah, they didn't have a word."},{"start":117.23,"end":118.63,"text":"Yeah, they didn't have a word to each other."},{"start":138.15,"end":163.08,"text":"Tämä video on harrastettu."},{"start":170.57,"end":177.8,"text":"Kiitos."},{"start":177.82,"end":177.96,"text":"Kiitos."},{"start":179.9,"end":180.52,"text":"."},{"start":180.54,"end":181.66,"text":"."},{"start":182.28,"end":182.54,"text":"."},{"start":182.56,"end":183.15,"text":"."},{"start":183.19,"end":183.21,"text":"."},{"start":203.46,"end":207.33,"text":"."},{"start":211.79,"end":220.15,"text":"Kiitos."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief meeting in the Executive Office Building to discuss the dynamics of a preceding event. The conversation focused on the notable lack of interaction between attendees during a recent gathering. No major policy decisions were made, as the exchange primarily served as a debrief regarding interpersonal observations.","topics":["Press relations","Social protocol","White House operations","Interpersonal dynamics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:13:22.518Z"},"topicSlugs":["press-relations","social-protocol","white-house-operations","interpersonal-dynamics"],"audioDurationSec":226,"audioFiles":[{"file":"370-019.mp3","bytes":5424273,"durationSec":225.93,"bitrate":192066,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","transcriptGapSeconds":68,"transcriptGapShare":0.3,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/370-019.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/370-019","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/370/conversation-370-019","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}