{"conversationCode":"372-002","tapeNumber":372,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-372-002","startDateTime":"1972-10-25T12:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-25T12:22:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Oct-1972","startTime":"8:20 AM","endDate":"25-Oct-1972","endTime":"8:22 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On October 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:20 am to 8:22 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 372-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 372-2\n\nDate: October 25, 1972\nTime: 8:20 am - 8:22 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 32-29]","filename":["372-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"372-001","nextCode":"372-003","transcript":[{"start":1.69,"end":16.62,"text":"So, you know, grab a lot of your other problems."},{"start":16.64,"end":28.3,"text":"One thing I didn't have a chance to talk about when I was preparing for this, I said very few things, but the most, the best thing that I've ever said about Jack McLaughlin, he's hardly forgotten it, is I said a little thing, I wrote on baseball, if you remember where I pointed out his record, football,"},{"start":33.26,"end":45.12,"text":"I mean, but it wasn't in my statement."},{"start":45.14,"end":47.28,"text":"Yeah, well, put it out."},{"start":47.3,"end":48.22,"text":"I mean, I know what I mean."},{"start":48.4,"end":49.4,"text":"It's just, just, you might need to point that out."},{"start":49.42,"end":50.1,"text":"Because I, I agree with you on it."},{"start":50.12,"end":50.99,"text":"It's important."},{"start":51.01,"end":56.55,"text":"But that's the most significant thing."},{"start":56.58,"end":57.48,"text":"It's kind of the greatest all-around athlete."},{"start":57.5,"end":58.98,"text":"And, uh, at that time, I was like, okay."},{"start":59,"end":59.4,"text":"I said, let's do it."},{"start":66.27,"end":69.37,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":114.55,"end":143.32,"text":"Well, what he's saying,"},{"start":158.57,"end":160.87,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler briefly discuss the public promotion of Jack McLaughlin’s athletic accomplishments. Nixon instructs Ziegler to emphasize McLaughlin's reputation as a talented all-around athlete in upcoming statements or press materials. The brief interaction concludes with the President confirming his desire to move forward with highlighting these biographical details.","topics":["Jack McLaughlin","Public relations","Press strategy","Biographical background"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:16:50.050Z"},"topicSlugs":["jack-mclaughlin","public-relations","press-strategy","biographical-background"],"audioDurationSec":170,"audioFiles":[{"file":"372-002.mp3","bytes":4070712,"durationSec":169.56,"bitrate":192060,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/372-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/372-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/372/conversation-372-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}