{"conversationCode":"372-004","tapeNumber":372,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-372-004","startDateTime":"1972-10-25T12:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-25T13:05:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Oct-1972","startTime":"8:20 AM","endDate":"25-Oct-1972","endTime":"9:05 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On October 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:20 am and 9:05 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 372-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 372-4\n\nDate: October 25, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:22 am and 9:05 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 32-30]","filename":["372-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"372-003","nextCode":"372-005","transcript":[{"start":5.33,"end":6.88,"text":"Why can't I pay you back?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon engages in a brief, informal interaction with a White House operator regarding a personal financial matter. He inquires about his inability to provide reimbursement for a service rendered or expense incurred. The exchange concludes without any significant policy developments or administrative action.","topics":["White House operator","personal finance","reimbursement","informal communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:17:01.519Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-operator","personal-finance","reimbursement","informal-communication"],"audioDurationSec":10,"audioFiles":[{"file":"372-004.mp3","bytes":253282,"durationSec":10.49,"bitrate":193099,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/372-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/372-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/372/conversation-372-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}