{"conversationCode":"372-013","tapeNumber":372,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-372-013","startDateTime":"1972-10-25T14:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-25T14:10:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Oct-1972","startTime":"10:09 AM","endDate":"25-Oct-1972","endTime":"10:10 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:09 am to 10:10 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 372-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 372-13\n\nDate: October 25, 1972\nTime: 10:09 am - 10:10 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 32-34]","filename":["372-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"372-012","nextCode":"372-014","transcript":[{"start":0.45,"end":4.4,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.42,"end":5.4,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":5.42,"end":21.22,"text":"The next thing is the radio, or do you have something else on there?"},{"start":21.7,"end":22.64,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":22.66,"end":23.16,"text":"Fine."},{"start":23.18,"end":24.66,"text":"Fine."},{"start":24.68,"end":24.88,"text":"I like it."},{"start":24.9,"end":25,"text":"Good."},{"start":25.02,"end":26.96,"text":"And if you look at that follow-up and all that, there's no hurry, but he's free to drop over."},{"start":26.98,"end":27.78,"text":"Sometimes, well, he's not probably fine."},{"start":27.8,"end":29.57,"text":"But there's good, but there's no hurry."},{"start":29.59,"end":29.79,"text":"And..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull briefly coordinated logistical arrangements regarding an upcoming radio engagement and the scheduling of a visitor. The discussion focused on confirming procedural preferences and determining that the visitor's arrival was not urgent. No major policy decisions were reached, as the conversation served primarily to manage the President's immediate calendar.","topics":["Scheduling","Logistics","Radio appearances","White House operations","Visitor coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:17:53.949Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","logistics","radio-appearances","white-house-operations","visitor-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":39,"audioFiles":[{"file":"372-013.mp3","bytes":928495,"durationSec":38.63,"bitrate":192301,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/372-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/372-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/372/conversation-372-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}