{"conversationCode":"372-016","tapeNumber":372,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-372-016","startDateTime":"1972-10-25T14:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-25T15:18:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Oct-1972","startTime":"10:14 AM","endDate":"25-Oct-1972","endTime":"11:18 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On October 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:14 am and 11:18 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 372-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 372-16\n\nDate: October 25, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:14 am and 11:18 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n        Vietnam peace settlement\n            -Public relations\n                -Use of “peace with honor” phrase\n                     -William F. Buckley, Jr.\n                     -William S. White, Richard (“Dick”) Wilson\n                          -Howard K. Smith","filename":["372-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"372-015","nextCode":"372-017","transcript":[{"start":10.88,"end":19.2,"text":"They just say, I just call it."},{"start":19.21,"end":24.1,"text":"And while I was in the workforce, I said, Bill, is that now?"},{"start":24.12,"end":24.88,"text":"Feel free to write."},{"start":24.9,"end":32.98,"text":"And if you're here, you have a chance to stand up and count it on a great issue that we're going to write about."},{"start":33.34,"end":34.04,"text":"And do this return."},{"start":34.24,"end":35.64,"text":"If you know it's a piece of law, it's a piece of strategy."},{"start":47.2,"end":49.24,"text":"white or people who do not"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discussed strategies for managing public relations regarding the ongoing Vietnam peace settlement. They focused on reinforcing the administration's \"peace with honor\" narrative by engaging influential journalists and commentators, including William F. Buckley Jr. and Howard K. Smith. The discussion aimed to consolidate domestic support for the administration’s diplomatic strategy as negotiations reached a critical juncture.","topics":["Vietnam War","Peace negotiations","Public relations","Media strategy","Peace with honor"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:18:10.816Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","peace-negotiations","public-relations","media-strategy","peace-with-honor"],"audioDurationSec":65,"audioFiles":[{"file":"372-016.mp3","bytes":1556061,"durationSec":64.77,"bitrate":192185,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:28.661Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/372-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/372-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/372/conversation-372-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}