Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 373-025 Date: Tuesday, October 24, 1972 at 4:16 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Connally, John B.; Mitchell, John N.; MacGregor, Clark; Ehrlichman, John D.; Colson, Charles W.; Sanchez, Manolo Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/373-025 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:16] ... ... ... ... [0:48] Thank you very much. [0:55] Thank you. [1:46] I think it's probably, probably too bad for this location. [1:56] It's all right. [1:57] I'm glad to respect it. [2:07] ... ... ... ... ... ... [2:41] ... ... ... ... ... ... [3:19] There is, by the way, you have to do this. [3:45] You have to do this. [3:45] You have to do this. [3:46] You have to do this. [3:51] I don't know. [4:21] I don't know. [4:49] I don't know. [4:49] I don't know. [4:49] I don't know. [4:54] ... ... ... ... ... ... [5:19] Thank you for watching. [5:49] Thank you for watching. [7:00] I think I'd like, I'm not going to do it in English. [7:23] We're playing two games here, and we're also playing four. [7:24] We're playing four games. [7:25] We're playing four games. [7:25] We're playing four games. [7:26] We're playing four games. [7:26] We're playing four games. [7:51] Put it out. [8:10] Put it out. [8:10] Put it out. [8:10] Put it out. [8:14] Let me tell you what I'd like just a little bit loose on. [8:39] I think I'm going to have to relax. [8:40] I think I'm going to have to relax. [8:41] I think I'm going to have to relax. [8:42] I think I'm going to have to relax. [8:42] I think I'm going to have to relax. [8:46] I think we want to play it just a little bit so that we can get the game to play. [9:07] I think that's the competition. [9:07] I think that's the competition. [9:08] I think that's the competition. [9:26] I'll make a speech. [9:46] No one else has a question. [9:47] Oh yeah, sure. [9:47] I have 15. [9:47] Right. [9:48] Right. [9:48] Right. [9:48] Right. [9:56] We are not going to make the right kind of settlement before the election. [10:16] We will make it. [10:16] We are not going to make the wrong kind of settlement before the election. [10:17] We are not going to make the right kind of settlement before the election. [10:19] We are not going to make the right kind of settlement before the election. [10:26] Thank you for watching! [10:49] Because they fear what I might do with eyes. [11:14] He said that to me. [11:15] I told him, what are you going to do with your eyes? [11:16] But the fact of the matter is that I ain't going to do it. [11:17] The other point I heard is that they're going to do it. [11:18] They're going to do it. [11:19] And then, uh, he's done, he's an architect, and he's trying to be present. [11:40] He's amazing. [11:40] For example, he's not going to make the ultimate evolution possible. [11:42] He's not going to make it possible. [11:42] He's not going to make it possible. [11:43] He's not going to make it possible. [11:44] He's going to make it possible. [11:44] He's going to make it possible. [11:52] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [12:40] . [13:08] . [13:08] . [13:12] What kind of things do you do? [13:40] I don't know. [13:40] I don't know. [13:40] I don't know. [13:40] I don't know. [13:43] ... ... ... ... ... [14:31] ... ... ... ... ... ... [15:05] It's irrelevant now. [15:28] It's what it is. [15:28] Somewhere, life is. [15:28] That's the best thing for us. [15:29] And also for us to say, life is what it is. [15:30] And I think that both sides agree. [15:31] And I think that's what it is. [15:31] And I think that's what it is. [15:32] Yes. [15:32] Well, in our day and age, you know, I heard people were asked to put a light on our side of the world. [15:39] . [16:06] . [16:06] . [16:06] . [16:06] . [16:07] Our plan is that it is the right kind of stuff that will lead to a lasting peace, and the survival of the South Vietnamese, and the survival of the South Vietnamese, Vietnam, as a non-common city. [16:29] And, uh, in fact, uh, the purpose will not be certified, regulated at this point, but it should be at the very center of the city, just put it that way, right? [16:40] I don't know what to say, but I think right now, you know, we have to make sure that I make sure that I make sure that I make sure that I [17:17] Well, when he said it, he said it was a call. [17:44] I don't fucking know what he said. [17:45] I don't know. [17:45] I don't know. [17:46] I don't know. [17:46] I don't know. [17:46] I don't know. [18:18] I know. [18:39] I know. [18:39] I know. [18:40] I know. [18:40] I know. [18:40] I know. [18:45] ... ... ... ... ... [19:14] I don't know. [19:33] I don't know. [19:34] I don't know. [20:04] Well, I know. [20:29] I agree. [20:29] I agree. [20:29] I agree. [20:30] I agree. [20:30] I agree. [20:30] I agree. [20:30] I agree. [20:33] I don't believe our prisoners. [20:52] I don't believe our prisoners. [20:52] I don't believe our prisoners. [21:07] . [21:35] . [21:35] . [21:35] . [21:35] . [21:38] I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, [21:53] Thank you for watching. [22:15] I don't know. [22:43] I don't know. [23:04] ... ... ... ... ... [23:33] I'm worried about a lot of it. [23:55] I'm sorry. [23:55] I'm sorry. [23:56] I'm sorry. [23:56] I'm sorry. [23:56] I'm sorry. [24:04] I'll just give it up on that. [24:08] This is the best I can do. [24:08] Yeah. [24:29] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [24:54] Well, I would say [25:24] ... ... ... ... [26:17] One thing that's terribly important is that we should find an absolute guarantee that our lives are not going to go down the wrong path. [26:44] We should have a condition that our lives are not going to go down the wrong path. [27:06] Thank you. [27:31] Don't refer to that. [28:00] A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A- [28:40] ... ... ... ... ... ... [29:21] ... ... ... ... [29:50] Absolutely. [30:19] I have anything for you. [30:19] Anything. [30:21] I don't want to. [30:50] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [31:28] Thank you for watching. [31:55] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [32:23] ... ... ... ... [32:50] Thank you for watching. [33:20] which, as I said, values are important. [33:42] We're going to talk about that in the next episode. [33:43] Thank you. [33:46] I'm serving credit now. [33:58] I'm going through the public law, but I have to get it done before I can get it done. [34:00] I'm going through the public law, but I have to get it done before I can get it done. [34:01] at the end of the year school, but I would talk with the president, and I would speak with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would speak with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would speak with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would speak with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would speak with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would speak with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, and I would talk with the president, [34:31] It's just that it's already eight o'clock. [34:50] Right. [34:50] Well, I think it's that early. [34:50] I think it's supposed to be in the middle of the day. [34:51] Oh, hills. [34:52] That's right. [34:52] In the middle of the day. [34:52] And, uh, we call it a star-spreading cold event. [34:53] We're reporting that we've never heard of it. [34:54] It's always a conversation. [34:55] It's always a conversation. [34:55] It's always a conversation. [34:56] It's always a conversation. [34:57] It's always a conversation. [34:58] It's about more than I'm told. [35:22] It's the only place I can play a role on the show. [35:23] It's also more than I'm told. [35:23] It's not a role that I can play. [35:24] It's not a role that I can play. [35:25] It's not a role that I can play. [35:26] . [35:56] . [35:56] . [35:56] . [35:56] . [35:56] . [35:56] . [35:56] ... ... ... ... ... [36:28] I'll hire, obviously, a client. [36:53] If you make the decision to sign off, I hope you'll learn what we're asking. [36:55] I hope you'll get it hard. [36:55] I hope that's not a mistake. [36:56] Tomorrow, we're going to talk about our job for Canada. [36:57] I hope that's not a mistake. [36:58] I hope that's not a mistake. [37:02] ... ... ... ... ... ... [37:33] ... ... ... ... ... ... [38:07] I won't be watching you chill at night. [38:24] I won't be watching you chill at night. [38:43] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [39:14] Thank you for watching! [39:41] You know, it's just that I laid the record. [40:00] It was the last Sunday. [40:00] I'm going to call it. [40:01] I'm going to call it. [40:01] I'm going to call it. [40:01] I'm going to call it. [40:02] I'm going to call it. [40:14] Oh, I didn't know about that. [40:37] Thank you for watching. [40:59] Please subscribe to my channel. [41:04] I don't know. [41:27] I don't know. [41:27] I don't know. [41:37] I don't think, I think fortunately he hasn't been on it since last week. [41:58] And that means he's your friend of the day. [42:05] I don't think I made a point to just open it up. [42:31] I don't think I made a point to just open it up. [42:36] Oh, that's right. [43:08] We've got John. [43:13] We've got John. [43:29] And John, I want you to add the end goals for the next four years. [43:54] That would be great. [43:56] I would like to do that, I think. [44:03] I have to do that. [44:03] I have to do that. [44:08] I don't think some of the money takers, all of their money is in money takers and all of their money is in the election. [44:33] But I think for money takers, for some of the money takers, they're going to have to do that. [44:35] They're going to have to do that. [44:40] Okay. [44:54] On the economic side, we've got drop-in. [45:16] Yeah, we have balance. [45:16] Is there any short thing to do? [45:17] It's very good. [45:37] It's promising everything. [45:38] People realize you can't deliver. [45:57] You don't think you could get me, you don't think you could get me down on a crash station to the radio station to do a panel on radio. [45:59] It doesn't go away. [46:00] It doesn't. [46:00] Television interferes with the radio. [46:01] That's not how it's done. [46:01] And also, it's the way you get the television to go to the radio. [46:03] I think that's because you've been getting, first, it's on the coverage. [46:04] It's on the radio. [46:05] Second, you get a text-to-press coverage on the radio station. [46:06] You know what, you've got to wait on that. [46:25] The battery's going to be at 10 o'clock tomorrow night, 7.50 tomorrow night, 7.30 tomorrow night. [46:27] Western, 5.00, 7.30 tomorrow night. [46:28] And that's pretty quiet, isn't it? [46:28] Oh, of course it is. [46:29] Oh, of course it is. [46:29] We've got 5 or 6 million wide lines on the basic bridge over there, and if you have to get another 20 million up there, or another pickup, we've got maybe 50 million up there, so it's over. [46:34] and then the district is the college of the district and then I would have the district and then the district and then the district and then the district and then the district and then the district and then the district and then the district and then the district [47:02] Fortunately, I didn't cover that point. [47:15] I was off the pack. [47:16] And that was the first thing we didn't know. [47:17] And we're going to run these through that road. [47:18] Yeah. [47:39] Right. [47:41] Well, I know it was for us. [48:00] I don't know. [48:22] Yeah. [48:49] Yeah. [48:49] Yeah. [48:52] Well, what you suggest, until I tell you what it is, that it's kind of a mess, the construction load, the fire load, the increase in the state of Montana, and how I had the shovels put together, I think for a reason. [49:09] Well, does that mean it's just traffic? [49:10] What do you think, Joe? [49:13] . [49:32] . [49:32] . [49:32] . [49:32] . [49:32] . [49:54] . [49:54] . [49:54] ... ... ... ... ... ... [50:12] Well, why don't you, uh, take the main thing there, which is like, just like, half of them on that. [50:32] I'm calling a liar. [50:50] I'm not a liar. [50:51] I'm not a liar. [50:57] The most effective thing here, I mean, it's not that we got a positive case, which is good, but the most effective thing is protecting him. [51:17] I don't think I, I'm avoiding a, a certain like-implicated terrorist attack this morning. [51:19] And there, well, all I can admit to, though, all I can admit to them is that, I mean, I, I included in my standard speech all the time. [51:22] That was a high-stranded growth, a low-stranded supply line. [51:23] I believe I need to continue to fight, to fight this. [51:24] We've got to make it lower. [51:25] We've got to have more jobs. [51:25] We've got to do this. [51:26] That sort of thing. [51:26] But on the other hand, that's us. [51:27] Why not? [51:46] It's weird. [51:46] Why don't you talk about it? [51:47] Why don't you get in touch with her? [51:48] I've got her in reception. [51:49] Well, there's an opportunity to do a rum show this Friday. [51:50] She doesn't want to sit in front of the press today. [51:51] I mean, who's got a good rum show to do? [51:52] Herb Shines can do it. [51:52] Joe Walters. [51:52] All of them. [51:53] All of them. [51:53] All of them. [51:53] All of them. [51:53] All of them. [51:54] Let's get him a bigger audience then, shall we? [52:19] A vote for a governor is a vote for higher taxes. [52:42] It's a vote for higher prices. [52:43] It's a vote for higher unemployment and recession. [52:45] It's just like I played with Laurel. [52:46] I was really confident. [52:46] I thought I'd take it on myself, but I just can't do it on my own. [52:47] I've got to do this job. [52:48] I want to get in the ring with him. [52:49] I don't know. [53:12] Thank you very much. [53:22] Thank you. [53:25] Why don't you get a 60-second radio and cut that quick? [53:46] You don't have to do anything about it. [53:46] Have that structure run manually, a radio spot, and cut the bejesus out of them. [53:48] Have that run all day long. [53:48] Right now, all day long, although housewives can do it. [53:50] But if you can, right, then that's kind of the right thing to do. [53:51] Okay. [53:54] That way you get a new start-up. [54:26] ... ... ... [54:42] Okay. [55:01] Okay. [55:02] Okay. [55:05] Anyway, I don't know where I am, but nevertheless, it was a great pleasure. [55:28] They had a very good job. [55:29] I'm very proud of them today. [55:34] But I follow the practice, and I know she's a very confident person. [55:59] She's very confident. [55:59] I don't know how to talk to her. [56:00] I don't know how to talk to her. [56:01] I'm very confident. [56:01] I don't know how to talk to her. [56:02] I'm very confident. [56:02] I don't know how to talk to her. [56:06] alcohol. [56:13] And since we had all those plans and our people came in and they wanted to do it, we've been able to do it longer than we did. [56:15] I'm sorry to say, I'm still awesome. [56:26] We now have the issues coming out with the announcement that John Segretti is a criminal. [56:51] He was on the side of the operation tonight. [56:52] We're going to stay away from that. [56:53] It doesn't make any sense at all. [56:53] A lot of people think this is a psychopathic, sexist tactic. [57:15] I don't know. [57:38] I don't know if you know this, but I had a condition where I heard a good point. [57:58] The dental credit, as the government is talking about this, has gone from one issue to the other. [58:00] It hasn't stuck with me. [58:01] It's just a piece of the other kind of this kind of thing. [58:02] I don't know if you've ever read about this, but many of the heads of the dental credit system are just sharp. [58:05] I'm not really happy with my vote, but I don't know what to do about it. [58:36] The city has done this. [58:54] The city has done this so often, the government has done this, the president has done this, the mayor has done this. [58:56] What they'll do is kill the president of the press so dead, that those down the press and those engaged in the city will say, well, I sure don't like this guy sitting in my house, and I can't much take the boots around him, but, well, he's obviously the down the press man, too. [59:02] We have a great story coming up. [59:32] And we are within a half a dozen dollars of the rate of what we expect to be. [59:52] I think that on what you're projecting, I don't know if that's true. [59:53] I don't know if that's true. [59:54] And on what you're projecting, I don't know. [1:00:01] Oh, I just saw that. [1:00:11] Give me your telephone, thanks. [1:00:12] Wait, I'm calling Stan. [1:00:13] I think the 49008 is very important. [1:00:13] That's the way I'm supposed to do it. [1:00:14] We'll be in the grave in 30 minutes. [1:00:15] We're going to be in the grave in 30 minutes. [1:00:16] We're going to be in the grave in 30 minutes. [1:00:17] We're going to be in the grave in 30 minutes. [1:00:28] . [1:00:48] . [1:00:48] . [1:00:59] Uh, you know, [1:01:17] A drug that I want to design that is for people out in Maryland, where it goes to the farm board and says it wants 100% parity for them, and it goes to the house board, and so on and so forth. [1:01:36] Yeah, this is where people should have to leave. [1:01:37] What I've said that I agree with, that would be something. [1:01:38] I don't think our people are going to stop buying. [1:01:39] After all, I'm going to the public. [1:01:45] Okay. [1:02:05] Okay. [1:02:06] Okay. [1:02:11] I'm [1:02:29] I think we do have, we have a target of 739. [1:02:41] And 5 is a double network, and back up to 150. [1:02:42] First time. [1:02:42] And let it run, as it says we run on the west coast, instead of trying to buy it for a lifetime and close it in there. [1:02:48] We've all, we've all, we've all, we've all, we've all, we've all, we've all, [1:03:03] We're off of Daylight City. [1:03:29] We're on the bed of others at 7.30. [1:03:29] We're going to have a couple more nights. [1:03:30] We're going to have a couple more nights. [1:03:31] We're going to have a couple more nights. [1:03:32] We're going to have a couple more nights. [1:03:41] I don't know if I can answer that question. [1:04:04] I don't know if I can answer that question. [1:04:06] I went back, giving it any excuse to be back in the day. [1:04:20] In 1960, it was their excuse to leave. [1:04:21] Well, it was. [1:04:21] But why didn't he have the time to believe that stuff? [1:04:23] Because the whole thing was going to be listened. [1:04:24] I know that's kind of the whole problem. [1:04:24] I don't know. [1:04:25] I don't know. [1:04:25] I don't know. [1:04:31] All the way around, it's a matter of whether or not it's an economic issue. [1:04:52] We've still got a lot of issues, like the state of the United States, and it's pretty bad. [1:04:54] But a lot of problems to deal with, I think, with inflation. [1:04:55] The government's serious about it. [1:04:55] I mean, I understand. [1:04:58] Yeah, yeah. [1:05:32] ... ... [1:05:52] elections, whether they're going to rise, whether they're planning to make it, but basically, yeah, I mean, the election is going to be a high-level positive. [1:06:06] So, an election is going to be a [1:06:17] That's what I've already got in my mind, and I just had to do it, but I plan to do that next summer, I mean, sure. [1:06:43] All this economics, I just need to do it. [1:06:50] That's the point, right? [1:07:10] And if you want to, whatever message you have, we have 83,000 people in the world. [1:07:12] I assure you, this is the best. [1:07:16] But you don't put it in. [1:07:36] You put the counter to it. [1:07:39] Okay. [1:07:59] Okay. [1:08:01] ... ... ... ... [1:08:38] Thank you very much. [1:09:04] The kids, they were up in the stretchers staring. [1:09:26] They said, come on, we're coming home from New York. [1:09:27] And I said, come on, we're coming home from New York. [1:09:28] And I said, come on, we're coming home from New York. [1:09:29] And I said, come on, we're coming home from New York. [1:09:30] And I said, come on, we're coming home from New York. [1:09:31] And I said, come on, we're coming home from New York. [1:09:37] . [1:10:05] . [1:10:06] . [1:10:06] . [1:10:10] Hello. [1:10:30] Hello. [1:10:30] Hello. [1:10:30] Hello. [1:10:33] Second time I checked, he's got to get credit. [1:10:54] But he has got a superb job of doing that. [1:10:55] And that must be awful, aren't it? [1:10:56] Yeah. [1:10:56] I'm not afraid of you. [1:11:02] I didn't say that. [1:11:22] I didn't say that. [1:11:22] I didn't say that. [1:11:35] So, particularly when you bring that to state, it feels like it's going to be very likely to bring that back. [1:11:55] And I learned the last week, I learned a lot of things about people's lives. [1:11:57] So, I'm just going to ask you the question, and figure it out, and I'll let you do it. [1:12:03] I'm not speaking out loud. [1:12:20] I'm speaking out loud. [1:12:21] I'm not speaking out loud. [1:12:21] I'm speaking out loud. [1:12:22] I'm speaking out loud. [1:12:26] We had more than they did in the last, well, the last two weeks, I guess. [1:12:46] That's the answer. [1:12:46] They had more than they did. [1:12:47] They had more than they did in the last two weeks. [1:12:48] I don't know. [1:12:48] I don't know. [1:12:48] I don't know. [1:12:49] I don't know. [1:12:49] I don't know. [1:12:49] I don't know. [1:12:50] I don't know. [1:12:55] Okay. [1:13:19] We don't cover up to 100,000. [1:13:55] Good night. [1:14:17] Good night. [1:14:17] Good night. [1:14:21] They have to bucket a lot of those things. [1:14:31] It's not a simple buckethead. [1:14:31] That's all. [1:14:32] That's all. [1:14:48] ... ... ... ... ... [1:15:25] We're trying to accomplish all of this. [1:15:45] It is. [1:15:45] It is. [1:15:45] Everybody has a purpose. [1:15:46] Everybody has a purpose. [1:15:46] And there should be a purpose. [1:15:47] There should be a purpose. [1:15:48] There should be a purpose. [1:15:48] There should be a purpose. [1:15:49] There should be a purpose. [1:15:49] There should be a purpose. [1:15:50] There should be a purpose. [1:15:50] There should be a purpose. [1:15:57] Okay. [1:16:20] Okay. [1:16:30] ... ... ... [1:16:58] I asked him about it. [1:17:14] I asked him about it. [1:17:20] Thank you. [1:17:43] Yeah. [1:18:07] Yeah. [1:18:10] . [1:18:39] . [1:18:39] . [1:18:39] . [1:18:39] . [1:18:39] . [1:18:41] Yeah, yeah, very good point. [1:19:03] There's no quid pro quo for a gift. [1:19:03] Then, what has happened as quid pro quo matters is that you might follow the direction of the education, the practice, and the pain and the quarrel. [1:19:06] You can't do that with either of those. [1:19:07] It's a violation of the spirit. [1:19:08] I see. [1:19:08] And how per se do you connect? [1:19:08] Well, how per se do the roles most people take? [1:19:09] Dr. Richard Rand, the secret of Rand, and how does one actually take? [1:19:18] I have a very small group. [1:19:40] We don't have a management group. [1:19:40] I have a very small group. [1:19:41] We don't have a management group. [1:19:42] I have a very small group. [1:20:16] . [1:20:43] . [1:20:43] . [1:20:43] . [1:20:43] . [1:20:43] . [1:20:43] . [1:20:43] . [1:20:49] I don't think, I don't think we brought it very clear. [1:21:16] There's just one little tab for the colors. [1:21:29] All you want to do is fire it and let it go. [1:21:30] You don't want the colors. [1:21:31] But it's good because now you can pick the best colors. [1:21:32] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [1:21:57] You know what I mean? [1:22:21] He looks at us all the time. [1:22:21] You know what I mean? [1:22:36] That's what kind of bothers me. [1:23:03] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [1:23:27] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [1:23:56] All right. [1:24:02] All right. [1:24:29] I don't know. [1:25:07] I don't know. [1:25:30] I don't know. [1:25:31] I don't know. [1:25:35] I don't know that there is one. [1:26:00] I don't know that there is one. [1:26:01] I don't know that there is one. [1:26:02] I don't know that there is one. [1:26:02] I don't know that there is one. [1:26:14] When I did it, I used to jump the guy who sent it. [1:26:32] It wasn't quite selected because I'm trying to tell you there isn't just one guy who did it. [1:26:34] There you go. [1:26:34] I didn't do it. [1:26:34] I didn't do it. [1:26:35] I didn't do it. [1:26:35] I didn't do it. [1:26:50] Well, by the time I saw it, that's because I don't like him at all. [1:27:14] It's a good question. [1:27:14] It's a good question. [1:27:14] They're just sitting out talking about it. [1:27:15] It doesn't feel as bad to me as it does to you. [1:27:16] I don't know. [1:27:17] I don't know. [1:27:17] I don't know. [1:27:17] I don't know. [1:27:17] I don't know. [1:27:18] I don't know. [1:27:28] All right. [1:27:58] That's it. [1:27:59] Well done. [1:28:47] I was able to survive that and there's a lot of people that apologize for that. [1:29:08] But that's actually, I think it's just that it's actually the way it is. [1:29:09] They're going to have to, that's their thing. [1:29:10] They're going to have to put their own funds for it. [1:29:11] I think they were kind of back to business, right? [1:29:12] Right. [1:29:13] But I don't think we're doing it right now. [1:29:13] We're not going to do it because we're not going to do it. [1:29:18] Absolutely. [1:29:47] Thank you. [1:30:51] Thanks for watching!