{"conversationCode":"375-003","tapeNumber":375,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-375-003","startDateTime":"1972-10-26T13:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-26T14:01:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Oct-1972","startTime":"9:57 AM","endDate":"26-Oct-1972","endTime":"10:01 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On October 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:57 am and 10:01 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 375-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 375-3\n\nDate: October 26, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:57 am and 10:01 am\n\n                                        (rev. Oct-06)\n\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n        Vietnam peace settlement\n            -Political candidates\n            -Offer of terms\n                -Possible effects on negotiations\n                -George S. McGovern\n                      -Prisoners of war [POWs]\n                      -Cambodia\n                      -Laos\n                -The President’s instructions\n                      -Kissinger’s forthcoming statements","filename":["375-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"375-002","nextCode":"375-004","transcript":[{"start":0.52,"end":22.83,"text":"One other point that I think is very important that we can make is that political candidates who offer terms that are more favorable than what we have already negotiated can only jeopardize"},{"start":24.4,"end":42.78,"text":"uh, hopes for success in the agreement."},{"start":42.8,"end":45.44,"text":"See, the reason I say that is that on, on POWs, he doesn't operate on Cambodia, on Laos, etc."},{"start":45.46,"end":49.21,"text":"But I think it's very important to get across the fact that we continue to operate in terms, in discussion in terms of, uh, uh, less they hold down the deprivation."},{"start":49.23,"end":49.71,"text":"Can you make that point?"},{"start":49.73,"end":49.95,"text":"Okay, so..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger strategized on how to undermine Democratic challenger George McGovern regarding the ongoing Vietnam peace negotiations. Nixon instructed Kissinger to publicly emphasize that McGovern’s alternative peace terms would jeopardize the progress already achieved, particularly concerning the status of prisoners of war and the situation in Cambodia and Laos. The goal was to frame the administration’s existing diplomatic efforts as the most viable path toward a stable agreement.","topics":["Vietnam War","Henry Kissinger","George McGovern","Peace negotiations","POWs","1972 election"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:25:00.543Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","henry-kissinger","george-mcgovern","peace-negotiations","pows","1972-election"],"audioDurationSec":53,"audioFiles":[{"file":"375-003.mp3","bytes":1265161,"durationSec":52.64,"bitrate":192273,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.876Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/375-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/375-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/375/conversation-375-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}