{"conversationCode":"375-019","tapeNumber":375,"conversationNumber":19,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-375-019","startDateTime":"1972-10-26T18:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-26T18:51:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Oct-1972","startTime":"2:50 PM","endDate":"26-Oct-1972","endTime":"2:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;","description":"On October 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:50 pm to 2:51 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 375-019 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 375-19\n\nDate: October 26, 1972\nTime: 2:50 pm - 2:51 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n\n[See Conversation No. 32-57]","filename":["375-019.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haig, Alexander M., Jr."],"prevCode":"375-018","nextCode":"375-020","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":2.66,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.76,"end":4.8,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.86,"end":14.41,"text":"Because Henry's comparing, I don't want to bother him."},{"start":14.43,"end":16.35,"text":"But this thought killed him."},{"start":16.37,"end":22.22,"text":"A major point that I know has to be covered with this thing about the election and the fact that he didn't cross."},{"start":25.08,"end":26,"text":"But there you go."},{"start":28.33,"end":34.32,"text":"Yeah, that's right, that's what happened."},{"start":34.34,"end":42.45,"text":"I would put it, you've got to put it, what words do you want me to say?"},{"start":42.47,"end":48.02,"text":"Our interest is the right kind of peace and peace that will last."},{"start":48.04,"end":50.66,"text":"Not the kind of peace we had after, I mean, we've been around this track in 1952, the settlement on Laos."},{"start":50.68,"end":51.14,"text":"Did we make that point?"},{"start":51.16,"end":52.48,"text":"Yeah, but I mean, let me make the point too."},{"start":52.5,"end":53.12,"text":"In Laos, we had a settlement."},{"start":53.52,"end":59.31,"text":"And it gave us a, however, it led to just a continued war."},{"start":59.39,"end":63.02,"text":"This time a lot of peace that will last."},{"start":63.04,"end":70.37,"text":"In other words, yeah, and then you could say that what the president says, our English is not peace for the next election, but peace for the next generation."},{"start":70.39,"end":72.07,"text":"So just want to use that phrase."},{"start":72.29,"end":72.39,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander Haig coordinate messaging regarding ongoing Vietnam peace negotiations to ensure public rhetoric emphasizes long-term stability over short-term political gain. Nixon instructs Haig to distance the current administration's goals from the failed 1952 Laos settlement, framing their objective as securing \"peace for the next generation.\" This effort is intended to provide talking points for Henry Kissinger and clarify the administration's stance ahead of the upcoming election.","topics":["Vietnam War","Peace negotiations","Foreign policy messaging","Henry Kissinger","Elections"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:26:34.196Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","peace-negotiations","foreign-policy-messaging","henry-kissinger","elections"],"audioDurationSec":75,"audioFiles":[{"file":"375-019.mp3","bytes":1803701,"durationSec":75.08,"bitrate":192189,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:44.875Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/375-019.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/375-019","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/375/conversation-375-019","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}