{"conversationCode":"376-018","tapeNumber":376,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-376-018","startDateTime":"1972-11-02T14:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-02T14:45:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Nov-1972","startTime":"9:38 AM","endDate":"2-Nov-1972","endTime":"9:45 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Price, Raymond K., Jr.;","description":"On November 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Raymond K. Price, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:38 am to 9:45 am. 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(President)","Price, Raymond K., Jr."],"prevCode":"376-017","nextCode":"376-019","transcript":[{"start":0.69,"end":9.32,"text":"So, yeah."},{"start":9.34,"end":25.18,"text":"Ray, where, since we're going, you know, on the foreign policy line, my radio, I want it to go for something, so I'm not going for Saturday morning."},{"start":25.2,"end":26.14,"text":"So, you know, the final thing has to be closed."},{"start":26.16,"end":27.34,"text":"So, on Sunday morning, for Ray, I'm going to respond to it."},{"start":27.36,"end":28.18,"text":"Now, in the foreign policy line,"},{"start":28.99,"end":50.63,"text":"And I'm thinking here of an area where ."},{"start":50.65,"end":52.4,"text":"I think the material on the foreign policy stuff is very good in here."},{"start":52.42,"end":53.08,"text":"I wonder if we couldn't perhaps ."},{"start":53.1,"end":54.34,"text":"Having in mind the fact that probably got the building"},{"start":69.17,"end":87.72,"text":"Up to that point, we've got another version up at a point in time."},{"start":87.74,"end":88.78,"text":"And of course, going through how it all comes about."},{"start":88.8,"end":90.79,"text":"Now, the first paragraph, another version, is that possibly on the stage, it might get too loud."},{"start":99.73,"end":125.07,"text":"But I think you might take a look at the real world, and having in mind that it should be in the other species."},{"start":125.09,"end":126.93,"text":"Now, on the other hand, you might tell us good and all, but what should we do about that?"},{"start":126.95,"end":127.87,"text":"I'm just thinking of whether this is material."},{"start":127.89,"end":129.21,"text":"Now, there's stuff about the defense department and so forth."},{"start":130.19,"end":147.12,"text":"But I'm just thinking if everybody hears you about it."},{"start":160.16,"end":180.14,"text":"Yeah, well that's right, that's right."},{"start":180.16,"end":181.66,"text":"And also the fight with the priest preceding paragraph is very strong."},{"start":189.6,"end":211.14,"text":"I really think that what you might do is perhaps put that out."},{"start":211.16,"end":216.55,"text":"I mean, that's a question we can forge a relationship, a network relationship."},{"start":216.57,"end":217.05,"text":"I think that might work."},{"start":218.31,"end":236.17,"text":"I'm trying to get this to about 100 words."},{"start":236.19,"end":243.5,"text":"No, no, no, nothing to the speech, but I'm in order for what they're going to follow up with the documentary."},{"start":243.52,"end":243.84,"text":"I'm pretty good."},{"start":243.87,"end":244.81,"text":"I don't want to have it sliced too much."},{"start":252.28,"end":270.76,"text":"2,800."},{"start":270.78,"end":272.16,"text":"2,800."},{"start":272.18,"end":272.44,"text":"You think so?"},{"start":272.46,"end":272.79,"text":"A little longer."},{"start":272.81,"end":273.14,"text":"I don't think so."},{"start":273.17,"end":273.99,"text":"A little longer."},{"start":274.01,"end":277.37,"text":"OK. Well, that's all."},{"start":277.39,"end":278.21,"text":"I'm working a couple of things out of it."},{"start":278.23,"end":278.71,"text":"I mean, I'm very modest."},{"start":278.73,"end":278.89,"text":"So here."},{"start":279.99,"end":308.17,"text":"I don't think the other, I think it's good I wanted a foreign policy speech, but I'm not sure that, or if you feel strongly about it, you know what I mean?"},{"start":309.3,"end":337.35,"text":"What I meant is,"},{"start":337.51,"end":356.11,"text":"You and I know that this is absolutely true, that this is a narrative that I hate, that I grow out of, that I'm acting against, that I hate each other, and each other's friends probably are."},{"start":356.13,"end":357.42,"text":"It's something that, but I think it could well go any other way."},{"start":357.44,"end":361.48,"text":"I mean, what I'm getting at is that I think that the people, unless I think through it, unfortunately, that we're in a relationship, and I think it's strange for us to take the profit out of war."},{"start":368.02,"end":388.38,"text":"or you think if you like this, you have something that feels wrong about it, you can add something to it."},{"start":388.4,"end":388.9,"text":"It's very good."},{"start":388.93,"end":389.85,"text":"All the people love it."},{"start":389.87,"end":390.89,"text":"It's very realistic, that's what I'm talking about."},{"start":390.91,"end":391.41,"text":"Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah."},{"start":391.43,"end":392.45,"text":"But just to that point, I have made a lot of money."},{"start":392.47,"end":392.93,"text":"I like to believe that."},{"start":392.95,"end":393.89,"text":"I made a couple of them for the economic stuff."},{"start":393.91,"end":394.15,"text":"Okay, yeah."},{"start":401,"end":402.06,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":402.08,"end":407.73,"text":"Well, as soon as I manage this, I'll let you come over."},{"start":407.75,"end":407.99,"text":"Okay."},{"start":408.01,"end":408.09,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and speechwriter Raymond K. 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