Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 378-002
Date: Tuesday, October 31, 1972 at 9:28 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/378-002

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[0:34] On the other hand, we have to realize that we have a very curious community here.
[0:54] We're catching it in terms of this thing from both the right and the left.
[0:55] On the ground, they were getting away from each other.
[0:56] On the left, it's going in for reasons that are dishonest.
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[2:10] I think that plus his father,
[2:57] Because those guns are dying.
[3:05] See, if they lay a box there, we'd blow out their faces.
[3:07] We'd have proof of saying we could have had this for years with no cars.
[3:08] And I do believe those are the differences.
[3:27] Well, the more I think about that, if they were going to blow it in and send us a message, and I think they sent us only two explanations for sending the message.
[3:52] One, to keep us from doing something.
[3:53] Then, yeah, it would give them a chance to blow it in.
[3:55] or to reassure us that something was coming.
[4:16] And I'm now of the view they couldn't very well before the signing that they were going to vote.
[4:18] So I suspect that tomorrow or the day after.
[4:19] I'd like to leave right away, but I have offered them to meet them, but I offered to meet them on the first, and I told them I wasn't available to meet them on the 9th.
[4:23] I thought it would be too cynical to say, try to meet on the 9th.
[4:32] 60 hours 60 hours to the 40 to the 40
[5:04] But I think we have to accept that people, some of the youths out there, are, of course, from the north of Florida, some of them.
[5:22] And to live around those youths, all of them are part of that.
[5:23] See, particularly in the meeting in the press, because all the youths are staying, the handicap we have is a little more of a risk.
[5:48] Thank you.
[6:24] but i think
[6:59] I'm for that one.
[7:16] If you know I'm for bombing anyone.
[7:17] The only thing these guys understand is that after the election, they still hang tough.
[7:18] I think they love it.
[7:19] They take on all that value.
[7:20] That's the sort of thing that everybody's going to watch.
[7:21] I know you can't think of any more.
[7:21] Well, there'll be a lot more that you can't fool around with a mile over reaction now.
[7:23] So, take it out of that age.
[7:24] That's it.
[8:07] We have got to get in a position for Henry, and maybe you've got to do another briefing.
[8:29] I'm just wondering later.
[8:30] To a position where we are covered.
[8:30] You just got to tell him about my own public stance.
[8:31] And he's thinking he's nice.
[8:32] I'll cover it with my own money.
[8:33] But it's more difficult for me to do it than you do.
[8:45] I think there's the real
[9:10] that we are not signing this agreement this time because there are some ambiguities that we need to deal with, which may get a poor agreement like the Laos agreement to hit that content agreement.
[9:30] And I said that we want the right kind of agreement.
[9:31] We already developed reasons over the weekend.
[9:32] And in other words, we're hanging up on that treaty that is not going to be a coalition government agreement.
[10:03] And he says, Eric Spielberg.
[10:33] I agree that
[11:02] Thank you.
[11:41] What I hadn't figured out, and shouldn't have, is these goddamn people, intellectually, they ought to be wiped out.
[12:50] It's so complicated.
[13:21] It's all right.
[13:25] It's a better day back at home.
[14:11] All right.
[14:48] I think you have to go through these maneuvers.
[15:12] I must say, in retrospect, I'll be honest, I think we made a mistake in going to such an incinerating stage.
[15:14] We had nuts.
[15:14] We shouldn't have made a quarter radio, quarter TV speech on the 27th.
[15:16] I think we should have been held in the 49th.
[15:17] Sure.
[15:17] I think you didn't press, but you would have had it.
[15:22] so we should have gone back to bed.
[15:29] We had said we were back, but we were not going to die.
[15:30] But that was a mistake.
[15:30] That was a mistake.
[16:54] Okay.
[17:24] Well, we'll try to think.
[17:34] Maybe when can you go out at the moment?
[17:35] See, what I mean is, you've got to leave the other.
[17:36] You don't want to leave the other.
[17:36] Listen to the other.
[17:37] He's alive.
[17:37] The other is dead.
[17:37] Well, of course, I don't think they're lying.
[17:58] Okay.
[18:36] Maybe that's the best thing.
[18:57] Now, I've got to do my follow-up, and I'm not going to put in a bunch of paragraphs, but I have to make it much more simple.
[19:00] I've got to talk to 23, and that would take too long.
[19:01] I think we should be very simple and direct.
[19:02] Here's a declaratory statement.
[19:02] You might have your...
[19:03] I'm sorry.
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[19:42] Thank you.
[20:15] I think you'd do the same.
[20:35] I think you'd do the same.
[20:36] No, I agree.
[20:36] But you could still get in, and you did the portals.
[20:37] You could get in the wire services.
[20:38] You could get in one field.
[20:38] You could get in the free network people in another field.
[20:39] You could get in the network background.
[20:40] And then, in addition, you could get about half of the major commentators, the columnists, in another field.
[20:42] How would that be?
[20:43] You'd have to be in the media and background.
[20:44] Fair enough.
[20:44] In the meantime, just wait about it.
[20:54] Thank you.
[21:40] Very obtuse, dull man, I must say.
[21:51] So he had nothing on the ball.
[21:51] But there he is, Andrew Wynn, part of it.
[21:52] Well, he's dead, isn't it?
[21:53] It may be, but I think he's alive.
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[23:10] so that he can say it and see it one time.
[23:14] Okay, and I thank you.