Conversation 378-004

TapeTape 378StartTuesday, October 31, 1972 at 9:55 AMEndTuesday, October 31, 1972 at 11:00 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ziegler, Ronald L.;  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  [Unknown person(s)];  Butterfield, Alexander P.;  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building

On October 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:55 am to 11:00 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 378-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 378-4

Date: October 31, 1972

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Time: 9:55 am - 11:00 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

        Vietnam settlement
            -Ziegler’s forthcoming press conference
                -Viet Cong [VC] statement
                -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Quality of settlement
                -Progress
                -Details of agreement
                     -Importance
                     -1962 Laotian agreement
                          -Kissinger
                -Quality of agreement
                     -Importance
                     -Condition set by the administration
                -Coalition government
                     -Sine Qua Non condition
                -Deadlines
                     -October 31, 1972
                     -November 7, 1972
                -Details of agreement
                     -Laotian agreement in 1962
                     -1968 bombing halt
                -Coalition government election commission
                     -De facto, de jure status
                     -Kissinger
                          -Laotian agreement
                     -Self determination
                          -Election
                              -Electoral commission
                              -Communists
                -North Vietnamese
                     -Negotiation progress
                          -US statements
                -Consultation with Saigon
                     -Kissinger
                     -Partnership
                          -Veto
                -Settlement timing

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                      -1972 election
                  -Quality of agreement
                  -Sine Qua Non condition
                      -Kissinger

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 10:03 am.

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Ziegler left at 10:17 am.

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Ziegler entered at 10:19 am.

         Signing of final bill of 92nd Congress
             -Scheduling
                 -Oval Office
                 -The President's meeting with Nelson A. Rockefeller

         The President’s schedule
             -Rockefeller
                 -Photograph session

Ziegler left at 10:20 am.

         Campaign practices
            -Press coverage of the President’s assistance to Congressional
             candidates
                -Endorsement letters
                -Photographs
                -Television [TV] spots
                -Candidate endorsements

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                 -Campaign contributions
                     -Clark MacGregor
                     -Transfer of funds
                 -MacGregor
                 -John N. Mitchell
                 -Kevin P. Phillips
                 -Films
                 -Buildup
                 -Radio
                 -U.S. News and World Report
                 -Telephone calls
                 -Robert J. Dole
                 -Phillips
                     -News summary
                 -News summary

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Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between
10:20 am and 10:50 am.

[Conversation No. 378-4A]

        John B. Connally's schedule

[End of telephone conversation]

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[Duration: 11m 36s ]

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        The President’s schedule
            -Chicago
                -Security considerations
                     -Demonstrators
                     -Comparisons to 1968 Democratic National Convention

        Record of administration
           -Public relations
           -Amnesty
           -US News and World Report
                -1972 election
           -White paper
                -Distribution
                    -Hugh Sidey
                         -John D. Ehrlichman
                         -Editors
                -Buying broadcast time
                    -Radio
                         -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                              -George S. McGovern

        Watergate
           -Possible libel suit
                -Charles W. Colson
                -Problems
                    -Chapin
                -Chapin

        Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
            -Political use
                 -Time article
                      -News summary
                      -Ehrlichman’s statement, October 30, 1972

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                         -Crime information in localities
                         -Justice Department
                              -Inquiry from Domestic Council staff
                         -Property of inquiry
                              -Handling by Justice Department
                     -The President’s view
                         -Analogy to bugging of Democratic National Committee
                         -Domestic Council
                              -Edwin L. Harper
                     -Domestic Council
                         -Geoffrey C. Shepard
                     -Ehrlichman’s statement
                         -Analogy to inquiries made of Agriculture and Transportation [sic]
                           Departments

        Watergate
           -Haldeman, Chapin, Colson
           -Chapin
           -Donald H. Segretti

        Issues
            -Vietnam, corruption
                -Administration polls
                -Democratic advertisements
                    -Effect
                         -Colson
            -The President’s forthcoming trip to Chicago
            -Vietnam
                -Press relations
                    -Hanoi
                    -Thieu
                    -Kissinger
                         -Left and right
            -Administration poll

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between
10:20 am and 10:50 am.

[Conversation No. 378-4B]

        Request

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[End of telephone conversation]

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Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 10:50 am.

         White House staff
            -Size
                -Ehrlichman’s staff [Domestic Council]
                     -Speeches
                          -Work
                -Meetings

         The president’s schedule
             -Rockefeller meetings
                  -Connally
             -Bill signing
             -Chicago
                  -Possible delay
                       -Media reaction

Butterfield left at 10:52 am.

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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:52 am.

        The President's schedule
            -Rockefeller
                -Connally
            -Chicago
                -Delay

Bull and Haldeman left at 11:00 am.

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Thank you.
and while the general mother has been
We don't want that.
We want a agreement that will last, a peace that will last.
And that's why it's very important that we have to deal with that.
Now, first, what is that?
Well, there is one condition.
It's non-negotiable.
One non-negotiable condition.
There can be no commentary.
our primary objective is the right kind of integration the election and we are not going to allow any
For example, the Laotian agreement in 1962.
And the bombing halt in 1968.
And the bombing halt in 1968.
In which the details were not adequately nailed up.
principles.
The details are vitally important in this one.
Target cleared up.
Thank you.
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They are a full partner.
They have a people and all that kind of stuff.
And we're working on that.
We're working on the government itself.
And that's something along those lines.
And the idea that we're not going to...
last, not one that has amputations in it.
One with amputations here, that third, it must be one.
And that's right, it must be further.
But above everything else,
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We cannot, under the law, we cannot transfer funds.
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Okay.
Okay.
and uh
All right.
Thank you.
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
I would do that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
uh...
When I saw it, I thought it was a goddamn screw-up.
I didn't even want to raise it.
But, you know, it wasn't practically the only one.
It wasn't the name of God.
It's like talking to a Democrat in there.
It wasn't the name of God.
It kind of looked like the National Council of Other Parties.
It wasn't the same injection.
It was stupid, though.
It wasn't.
Thank you.
Right.
the only thing that I'm concerned about
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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There I go.