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Conversation 379-008

TapeTape 379StartWednesday, November 1, 1972 at 9:15 AMEndWednesday, November 1, 1972 at 9:17 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Jurgenson, Christian A. ("Sonny")Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On November 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Christian A. ("Sonny") Jurgenson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:15 am to 9:17 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 379-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 379-8

Date: November 1, 1972
Time: 9:15 am - 9:17 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Christian A. ("Sonny") Jurgensen.

[See Conversation No. 32-111]
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Yeah.
Hello.
Sonny?
You're at the hospital?
Well, I'll tell you, you know, the whole town, as you know, is really, really profoundly sorry about the whole thing.
But the thing I told you about was this, that I saw some pieces.
I just want to tell you how it's doing.
I mean, heck, you know, I'm sort of the, I'm sort of the, I guess, the rich-hander coming back, but everybody has the good faith, you know, and with all your talent, I mean, we've got to, you know, see what, what a good moral's going down there.
And, uh, it is.
Well, it is, I know, but, you know, you've been out here for a change of shoulder, and you have this thing.
But on the other hand, the thing that you have that the other folks don't have, I mean, as good as they are, I mean, I don't know what it would be, but you control everybody else.
And also you've got that sort of little spark, you know, and I guess the main thing at this time, you're sitting in there and all that, and you've just got to do it.
You've got to take another crack at it.
Because...
You went, but an awful lot of people were going for you.
And, uh, the, uh, I must say, I saw the Dow being on TV, and all that, and it was a great event.
And everyone in front of me, they said, that happened, or something, you see.
So I said, this is just one of those freak accidents, but you probably spent some time holding it.
So that didn't happen.
Yeah.
Well...
Well, we wish you well, but just keep your old, keep your old spirit up, you know.
The red day is never enough.
Never, ever.
It's hard for me to do that.
Okay.
Bye.
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