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Nixon & Bull on Maurice J. Williams and Media relations

Thursday, December 28, 1972 · 12:05 PM–12:07 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation380-009 on Tape 380StartThursday, December 28, 1972 at 12:05 PMEndThursday, December 28, 1972 at 12:07 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 380-009 ↗

President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate his upcoming schedule and manage communications regarding potential meetings and statements. The discussion focused on locating Maurice J. Williams in West Virginia, facilitating a briefing paper through Colonel Richard T. Kennedy, and preparing for a trip to Camp David. The President emphasized the importance of discretion, specifically instructing that no information regarding these matters be disclosed to the press.

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I'll ask.
I don't want anything said in the press conference.
Thank you.

On December 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:05 pm to 12:07 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 380-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 380-9

Date: December 28, 1972
Time: 12:05 pm - 12:07 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President's schedule
            -Possible meeting with Maurice J. Williams
                  -Williams’ location
                         -West Virginia
            -Telephone call to Williams
                  -Col. Richard T. Kennedy
                         -Briefing paper
            -Camp David
                  -Statement
                         -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                               -California
                         -Messages to Congress

Bull left at 12:07 pm.
  • 035-024 11:56 AM · 39 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 11:56 am to 11:57 am.
  • 380-007 11:56 AM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:56 am and 11:57 am.
  • 380-008 11:57 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:57 am and 12:05 pm.
  • 035-025 12:07 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:07 pm and 12:35 pm.
  • 380-010 12:07 PM · 18 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:07 pm and 12:35 pm.
  • 380-011 12:07 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:07 pm and 12:35 pm.
  • 380-012 12:07 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:07 pm and 12:35 pm.
  • 035-026 12:35 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rex W. Scouten talked on the telephone from 12:35 pm to 12:39 pm.

Conversation 380-009, December 28, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/380-009 (accessed October 11, 2026).