{"conversationCode":"381-004","tapeNumber":381,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-381-004","startDateTime":"1972-12-13T18:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-13T19:48:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Dec-1972","startTime":"1:12 PM","endDate":"13-Dec-1972","endTime":"2:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On December 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:12 pm and 2:48 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 381-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 381-4\n\nDate: December 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:12 pm and 2:48 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator [?].\n\n       Telephone call to an unknown man","filename":["381-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"381-003","nextCode":"381-005","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":5.1,"text":"I'll call in later."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with a White House operator to facilitate an outgoing telephone call to an unidentified individual. The brief exchange primarily functioned to coordinate the connection for the President's upcoming communication. No substantive policy matters or further actions were recorded in this fragment.","topics":["White House operator","Telecommunications","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:40:04.886Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-operator","telecommunications","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":16,"audioFiles":[{"file":"381-004.mp3","bytes":380546,"durationSec":15.71,"bitrate":193826,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.213Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/381-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/381-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/381/conversation-381-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}