{"conversationCode":"381-012","tapeNumber":381,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-381-012","startDateTime":"1972-12-18T18:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-18T18:16:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Dec-1972","startTime":"1:15 PM","endDate":"18-Dec-1972","endTime":"1:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On December 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:15 pm to 1:16 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 381-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 381-12\n\nDate: December 18, 1972\nTime: 1:15 pm – 1:16 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 34-127]","filename":["381-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"381-011","nextCode":"381-013","transcript":[{"start":0.15,"end":4.25,"text":"So... Are we having lunch?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler met briefly in the Old Executive Office Building to coordinate their midday schedule. The primary focus of the discussion was confirming arrangements for lunch. No significant policy or political matters were addressed during this brief interaction.","topics":["White House logistics","Scheduling","Ronald Ziegler","Richard Nixon"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:40:49.496Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-logistics","scheduling","ronald-ziegler","richard-nixon"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"381-012.mp3","bytes":363597,"durationSec":15,"bitrate":193918,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.212Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/381-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/381-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/381/conversation-381-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}