Conversation 381-021

TapeTape 381StartMonday, December 18, 1972 at 2:45 PMEndMonday, December 18, 1972 at 5:50 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Colson, Charles W.;  Acker, Marjorie P.;  Kissinger, Henry A.;  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  Ehrlichman, John D.;  Sanchez, ManoloRecording deviceOld Executive Office Building

On December 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Marjorie P. Acker, Henry A. Kissinger, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:45 pm to 5:50 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 381-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 381-21 (cont’d)

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Sir, well, what are you up to today?
Well, I just did a fascinating lunch with Bill Taylor.
Oh, this is your date for the day later.
I don't know whether I got a job for her client or not, but I sure ruined Taylor's day.
He had wanted to come down and see me at Iron.
I said, well, I couldn't do that.
I said, I couldn't do that.
And he said, why not?
He said, you know, you're going to be practicing here.
And I said, yes, but I said, I have to protect my reputation as a witness.
I said, I want to continue to enjoy good relationships here.
I said, that would be like representing the very best brothers.
I said, that doesn't make sense.
I just, the children, that's the question.
And he said, oh, we're not that bad.
I said, worse.
And he said,
I really think I was shocked at, you know, I really did.
We went through this business of value building the network and we tried to help you in 1960 and now you're really loyal to us and I suppose your news just doesn't show.
After all the inter-tenant studies, and that's kind of been conducted, you see, he said he hadn't felt that he had.
In fact, he crept up on the side when I approached him and hired a client and said,
But we couldn't do that, and he said it would be so obvious to the president to put on someone who was just the administration.
And he said to the chancellor, I said, if you see one, it's Kelly.
I had a chancellor around in the other district.
The chancellor was the devil's voice in America, I figured.
Johnson, I thought, was the devil's voice in America.
He went the other way.
Well, he went back to the city, but I don't think Bobby went back to the city.
I'm sure he went back over there.
But I don't know.
That worries me.
That all works.
I'm sorry.
You know, occasionally, you know, an administrator, I suggested that, and I think it works.
He sent me to the office.
He said, you know, he said, I had the impression that you were a very skillful negotiator.
He said, I...
always felt that your business to New York would put some pressure on the state insurance so that our broadcasting would be able to help your liking.
And I said, well, that's the right thing to do.
And he said, but now he's done with it because that's the way it is.
And I said, yes, that's the way it is.
And he wanted to know how you felt about it.
And I said, well, I never discussed it with him.
I said, I can only say that he reads the same summary as I do.
So, I said, I don't know how he feels.
I don't know if he feels it's unfair or not.
I don't know if he feels it's unfair or not.
I don't know if he feels it's unfair or not.
I don't know if he feels it's unfair or not.
He called us in 1960 to ask us to come and speak to you.
He might mention, ask them to do it.
He and I were such close friends, I know.
He was part of the social stuff.
Oh, he did?
Oh, sure.
He was a bachelor of science.
Well, maybe in the election.
He said to me, he said, this is the greatest president we've ever had in this country.
He's an awful bastard.
Terrible.
I'm actually very upset about the way he's done it.
Just recapping the whole time.
And he said, well, Conte does that.
Conte does that merely to put the whole thing in perspective.
That's what it was.
It was perspective.
I made a very common point, because he knew I wasn't trying to prove any point, but I was
You did your best, Sheriff.
Well, we'll see.
In 90 minutes.
And you're a great man.
Thank you, Sheriff.
The problem with her is that she's a bad man.
She's a great man.
She doesn't care that we're a good property.
What I hope that you do is... We'll get out and try to solve the problem.
I don't want him to be done then, but he's not there.
He's not there.
Well, for his own sake, listen to that.
He waits until he works on it.
And he's also an agent.
You know, he's good at 40, but he's 58.
Nobody's going to hire anybody like you.
No way.
The question is, you get sort of a varied reputation.
It's not a good thing.
I think, if you want me to, I can start figuring it out myself.
Well, I believe it.
Don't let it feel like I'm pushing you down the wrong path.
It's up to you.
We make it better.
I waited a long time.
I waited a long time.
I waited a long time.
I waited a long time.
I waited a long time.
I waited a long time.
I waited a long time.
I waited a long time.
We've got the anti-armistice, too.
That's great.
They'll get you off that table.
It is very important.
They didn't say what's very important, but one hand, our world.
We didn't run the bill quite as well.
I wrote it down there.
That's right.
I like to bear it.
That's the first.
And it all holds.
The bigger the bigger, the greater the thing.
And she's a very, very, you know, she's a great answer.
We'll be a great answer.
So I think it's coming around to this.
Coming here on a little-time basis, the very thing we felt was that the biggest changeover in the rest of the world to have any president realize it.
What about our climate comp?
Did that fit?
No.
See it went straight up.
Even on the 18th?
Yeah, I may have read it before today.
Scammon had suggested that he took the kid bond from the governor-elect in Missouri.
And you want to continue to say that?
No one keeps these figures officially.
No one keeps these figures.
The Secretary of the Senate did not record the official Scammon's arrest.
Not only did the official record it.
Well, he's...
He is working this afternoon with one of my assistants to put his final sheets together.
I don't know what it is.
He's discovered Arizona.
Not only Arizona, but I heard it all the time.
I heard it all the time.
I heard it all the time.
New York, when they certified, he lost $30,000.
Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Or that we can't get the work done on time.
Well, he's, he's, Scanlon is, last week he broke the wood and now he's getting a little bit pessimistic.
Yeah.
Well, we lost, we lost another .
Why is that?
Dick is trying to find out, but when we came back with three canvas,
The governor picked up votes that he hadn't had before and did.
And then we left, we, you know, we left 12, then we went to 7.
Louisiana, it was a screwball, but not a prohibition, but an argument, yeah.
Where we, where we stand, perhaps, now, about 61.
It's quite even.
We're up in the west over here.
But Missouri's got Elvis.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
So, what other states besides Missouri, though?
West Virginia.
That ought to help us.
Yeah, sure does.
Doesn't matter.
Either one, Chuck, I'll bring it up.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, Missouri East was good.
Yeah.
Missouri's good.
We also suggest that truck garage in West Indiana.
He sat at the end of the stand.
And he said, call Ashmore.
He said, well, there are these two doctors that you sent in.
He said, they'll put an extra 50 in for you.
And they do that.
Five guys go to Dr. Ashmore.
The MRI.
I think it was really a great deal.
He signed his black one bill for us.
I asked him about the whole coverage of pictures.
And he said, oh, yeah, that's good.
All we need is 50,000 for the call track record.
Well, I think so.
I think so.
He'll still write the final picture.
Well, Scanlon does.
Oh, yeah.
Scanlon will write the final picture.
Yeah.
He published it.
He's going to publish it either way.
He's going to do it.
He's going to do it.
In a major party percentage, you beat us.
But unfortunately, in a major party percentage, you don't beat Roosevelt 36, you don't beat Carter.
Because not all the third parties do.
The biggest there is 63.
I believe they're not at 62.
69.9 is the major party.
So it's third on its own.
Second, why is it that everybody said Johnson is the biggest?
Because on the total percentage was 61.1.
That is what we're trying to reach.
61.5.
That's all we can get.
We have 61 right now.
Right now it's 69.
Well, that's good to know.
We'll try.
We'll see what happens in Missouri.
The other thing we didn't fix in the other episode, we didn't fix it in the other place, but there's a couple of those here and a couple of those there.
We had a mistake in all of them.
We haven't gotten any breaks because we were afraid of Missouri.
The odd thing was all of the states that were certified, we were getting a little better concept than New York and Pennsylvania.
Those did not happen in these states when we were calling the great open.
It's been a while since I've seen him.
I think you're following me.
We always discuss the...
I have no need to do anything yet, but I mean, I was just wondering about... We've done what we did.
Yeah, we've done what we did.
But I mean, you know, I'd be glad if you wanted to listen to it.
We don't want to make a great big issue out of it.
We want that solution, but we actually want better than that.
As a matter of fact, your point is valuable.
But the point is that the
They are going to, uh, there will be a, there will be a, the story will be big, and I don't, uh, I don't think we're going to be able to create it.
I don't think we're going to be able to create it.
I don't think we're going to be able to create it.
I don't think we're going to be able to create it.
I don't think we're going to be able to create it.
I don't think we're going to be able to create it.
Yeah, I don't think that's big news, but we've got a lot of variety.
Our variety is, you know, one of the biggest rates we've been able to get is in the southern part of the United States.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, like, we've all heard of that.
And that was the year that they went.
And like, I don't know, I don't think that's been distributed.
The market is off.
I don't know.
I don't know if that's...
It's done better than it should have been.
It's done better than it should have been.
It's done better than it should have been.
I thought it would have a bigger reaction time.
I don't think there's much excitement in the country for the people, for the press, which they're about to talk to.
But I guess the reaction, I guess, has been very beautiful for people that, of course, they haven't had the bombing yet, but they had a little bit of money.
I don't know if they had the money.
But I think they were, I think,
I would be quite sure what he would do.
And I would want to watch this one for a day.
And the government was the only one who said anything.
That's a sour-grained statement from Donald Reagan.
Basically, what was that?
Oh, he said, well, I knew this was a trip all along.
It never was a peace agreement.
This was simply a device to get votes.
I said so in a campaign.
It was on the radio last night.
No doubt about it.
Like a voice out of a bed, sitting here, whispering something.
But he was not saying a perfectly predictable thing to me.
No one else had said it to me.
I've been asking people, they've got to remember, they've got to walk straight on that issue.
Yes, he said it to me.
He said it to me.
I don't know about this business, but it's crazy.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
We were pretty goddamn honest with each other.
I was.
You know, I said to him, you know, I mean, on my way to study, he said, you know, he was an actor, but I pulled back on the call.
And I said, all right, let's go.
I said, you know, I said, you know, I said, you know, I said, you know, I said, you know,
Yes, it's possible, only because that's a better way out.
Any kind of liberty is a better way out than this.
Yeah, you did say it was a good idea.
I can't put it out.
I want to assume that it's good.
So if there's any, if that works out, then we need to do it again.
But either way, it could get over.
And it will be by an agreement of some sort.
I agree with that.
I don't know if you...
I don't know if you can hear it, but all the people in that room, I don't know if you can hear it.
Ironically, you know, the fact that it's Christmas today, I don't know.
Really?
Yeah.
People are not, I guess, people are not very happy, kind of relaxed.
It's a little better, I think, than some of the discussions I've had.
I think people have a different view about Eric.
Well, sure, because in the air, the pilot is the guy that is there if he wants to be there.
And also, another thing, I guess, too, is that they take his body, his bomb, and back it on the ground, and you see it on television.
You already saw the pictures.
That's right.
That's right.
Whether it goes one-on-one or the other, I think you can get it.
The other side, if you can get the gals, that's just amazing.
What an important thing.
And, you know, now that I've got my church in here, a lot more than I hoped.
Putting up my Christmas tree Saturday night, but this morning, it's really a branch.
I've got my nuts in here.
These crazy ninjas out here, what's going on in here?
They're very careful.
These guys
I think last week was a great success.
Well, we haven't had any money.
We haven't got all the press votes that we were trying to get all the right people with us on it.
But we did get some good bounces.
You know that Tony story in this package that seems to have 13 kids that want to interview us.
And you know, did you hear that he had a little enemy back in the company, so I don't know where he said that his children were taking your pictures as they're doing a campaign, took your pictures as they're approaching the schools, and they become great campaigners for you, and how thrilled they were to be here, and that they never thought they were being the way that I wanted them to be.
Wow.
That's great.
I went to Fitz's house last night.
The party had eight priests in the city, you know what I'm saying?
Every one of them mentioned this to me.
They said, you know, they read it.
That's kind of a story, isn't it?
Yeah, it doesn't.
You know, the society made the judgment.
You know, but it still screwed the society up.
They tried to get it to stay right.
But it still did.
Washington never worried about it for a year or two.
But it gets out around the country.
That's the way it is.
We think they believe in the present world in the sense that we think of the same as all of us.
But the basic story is that we believe in the present world.
But we took care of them all.
There isn't anybody who didn't get an invitation.
There wasn't much counsel left for us.
Some of them didn't come, but at least they didn't say they didn't get an invitation.
But also, if you pick up a new part of the inauguration, and we'll get them all together, we'll see if we can get a lot of them coming to the inauguration.
Well, part of the game for us is sort of a piece of vision, right?
You know, the distance is a draw.
We can't get to the... We can't get...
But I get all of our people understanding.
But, of course, we can't take more of it.
People who talk to the press, I mean, I'm talking about the individual reactions, and, you know, the kinds of people who, I don't know, they reject me.
And these people had never been in an event like this before.
So we discovered an interest in him.
We discovered an interest in him.
And the governor, his funders, you know, said that he wanted to have a seat as far as Will Jackson did.
And he couldn't.
Therefore, he would pick at random and produce everything when he was elected president.
So it was a great story.
The fact that, in the future months, there's going to be this train of people to help you.
There's going to be people who just work for us.
Work for them and just believe.
It's very interesting.
Yeah.
It's funny how fast my government has stated that.
Because they thought this was a lie.
A lie.
I believe that if that is not, I don't know what to do.
You know, who's he gonna do?
He's gonna wind up with us.
He's gonna wind up with us.
Old constituents, you know what I mean?
So he's gonna push other people in front.
There he is.
By the way, there he is.
I don't think on this issue that he's mad at us.
Some of your heads never got the same as this one.
All locked up.
All locked up at 90%.
If there's any reaction, there'll be some, but we want to know if there's a very bad reaction.
Although, I don't know if there's a goddamn thing I can do, I still think that the idea of handing them out three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to three to
To the American people, I'm telling you that what Congress does, we don't necessarily want to arrest the law unless we have a public problem.
And anything you say is not within your position.
It needs to be up to you.
Unless you say, I don't think this Congress is better than it is.
Oh, fine.
Uh, he wrote there, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, fine.
Let me, you can do something for me.
That's the way it's going to work.
We've got that right here.
We are.
We can't settle it in the wrong places.
Again, what the counselors are all going to be on, and also a whole lot better if you have those now than having them three months from now, six months from now.
I didn't hear Henry screaming, but I read it before.
He gets very well chosen on.
As long as you're going to find a lot of good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good.
Thank you.
or it's a record that's written out of the other thing that's all we see.
Okay.
That, uh, most people just remember, you know, this is awful big.
Well, I think when they, I think when they write about it, uh, they're going to have to write about the Johnson and Nixon class, but, you know what I mean?
They'll never be able to write about the Johnson class, but they'll mention the Nixon class.
They're so gross.
That's right.
And one of the two parts of those is bigger.
So when they talk about it,
historic landslides, they're going to write about those.
If we hedge it by one one-hundredth of a point, they're still going to write about those.
If we are one one-hundredth of a point behind, they're still going to write about those.
They're both sixty-one percent landslides.
Also, it's the biggest property that we have any scandal that we've ever heard about.
It's the biggest property.
The biggest tribal property.
The biggest percentage property.
The biggest two-party property.
Now, the question, of course, he is so determined to get this up that he really wants to see it.
He's not only kind of admiring it, but he's testing it.
I think we'll find it.
Well, remember, it was developed by an artist rather than one in which there were actually five that did not have it.
Absolutely.
Oh, absolutely.
And he looked at us very smartly.
He looked and said, which I'm sure he didn't say to the government.
He said, well, let's wait and see what happens.
Let's get the president done with the work that's done.
Chadwick said the same thing.
Everyone else has been very cautious.
I think that the way that Obama is,
That will stir it up a little bit, but they still, I think they've learned that they can't meet each other, they can't reach each other.
But the people of the people, that was really the eighth central issue in the campaign.
And we know that, no matter what the media does, somehow the people draw their own objections.
you know, what they can possibly be made of, and then as far as recall, there's a need to speak on this issue.
It came to a close, and whatever it was, that's the process, whatever it was, basically.
There's never any question about that.
Here it's over, let it go, let it go.
They might have seen it next year or two years from now.
I think people should do that, and I think it's very, very, very clear.
We've done a little bit of that, and it was wild until Jesus moved in.
It was an image problem.
He said, make the plan.
He said, make the plan.
He said, make the plan.
He said, make the plan.
He said, make the plan.
He said, make the plan.
because the other hand was dropped the other way.
Yeah, and I don't want to get kicked the shit out of me, but I've seen it.
I've tried to just get, well, I've tried to get rid of that out of me.
I have, and I'm just going to keep trying to get rid of it.
Everybody knows what I'm talking about.
and he's expecting me to be calling for our weapons.
He only knows how to protect you.
He said, he said, I'm ready to go.
He doesn't trust me.
He's doing this to help me.
It doesn't help me.
It doesn't help me.
But it's important to me that I'm in the business.
I was invited to the magazine to play tomorrow.
I'm going to play tomorrow.
Here's the thing.
I don't think there's a question about anything like that.
So, we thought we had to do this.
I used to try to trap him on this occasion.
Tried to bug her and say, you better trap the lawyer.
And I decided to try and explain what you could do and what you could do.
She could stick with him and she could tell him he needed it.
Broadcast is in a position where it talks to us.
It's stuck.
And that's the narrow at the other side of the network.
That's where you put yourself.
You don't press B on the line.
Which of course is a different kind of thing.
Now this may help, but it's getting old.
And how do you deal with that?
Well, it's not there.
We're not going to let you compute a machine.
That came out quite well.
LeBron played it well today, because either side is going to get involved in the war, and either side is going to get involved, along with the nation's association.
That's the benefit of either side.
And by that, neither hand, like our side, is going to get involved in the war.
Neither hand, like our side, is going to get involved in the nation's association.
It's going to be a political, and it's a political issue.
Well, yeah, yeah.
You know, before you go, is there any work, any work you want Coastal to do?
I don't think there's anything.
Well, we're running low on dirty tricks.
You know, he's not going to, he's got a patient that's going to have him about 60 days now, so I'm sure he'll do some work.
You know, what I've got to mention is he's got the, you know, my direction, he's got the labor, he's got the labor, he's got the labor.
You've got them on sale, but I feel like not to use them unless and until we want them.
We don't want them to be an issue.
It doesn't matter.
Nothing to say unless they decide to have a good run.
If you don't react, it's like a crack in the gutter.
It doesn't lie around.
Isn't that predictable?
That's what you say, Chuck.
That's what you say, Chuck.
He said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said,
They got, they got that, they were on that side, and they were right chucked.
They lost.
I'm sure that was, that was really, that was the thing that, the central issue that came in for the last 10 days.
They lost it big, by what it does in the Senate.
I'd be a little bit nervous.
I want to see what you have.
I want to see what happens.
I want to see what happens.
I don't want to get caught.
I want to do it.
It went a little well.
I did it.
Well, if you're me, don't kill me.
I should be able to handle the shot.
Basically, my only fear is that you'd be bothering me for a while.
You know?
He said he was going to see you on Saturday.
He thought you did it already.
Why don't you record it?
I need to go to the next meeting.
Well, I'll tell you.
I mean, I was very busy.
Yeah, there was a meeting.
It was the same thing.
Right.
Right.
Well, it's a
We've been around this track before, and now we're going to do this tradition.
We've done a lot of times off, but we're going to run quick, and we'll get back to you.
Well, we'll get back to you.
Our own process is the most.
The other thing that I'm going to do is we've got reporters, and we need to make sure that we're going to see people.
The thing I was thinking about is that when I talked to Bob about his plans, I had plans for a quarter of this year.
And there were a lot of new issues that were going to happen in the time off.
What are you planning to do?
I do not think myself that the bombing is so important.
I think any restriction around creates a bigger problem than otherwise.
So I think we also have to go with that line, regardless of how much .
I think that's right.
I don't think the person can say he can't.
I shouldn't say he can't.
I don't think he can say he can't.
We did one .
You know, the fact that we left the week before Christmas was probably the best time of your day.
Because people are not as moved to be wanting to hear about politics and all the rest of it.
You know, they're out buying Christmas trees, they're watching the pro-vote and all that.
And that's quite true.
That's why you never try to make political decisions in a week like this.
And I think we're in a very interesting position that I think
I think the opposition is going to have a real hell of a time, I think.
So I want you to make your plan in a way that will keep them in contact.
Let's see.
I forgot.
When do you take this back?
It should then come to Florida.
I'll be there.
I wonder if Henry should go to Florida with me, then, and take care of his wife, or, you know, do whatever you want to ask him to do.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'd like to come back then on Friday night so I can come back at night.
You can come back at night because we have courage on the edge.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll probably come down on Saturday morning.
Well, maybe come straight then.
Well, I was even thinking that he ought to come straight there on this trip.
I'd rather have hate come there than show the peers that I'm on top of him, rather than drop him through here.
No, no, it's easy.
I just felt that he was coming through.
Also, you can see another thing that gets away from this report in the state.
I don't know, but I think that he could have done it here.
There was a rain in your schedule, and I knew it was a lot of rain.
Right.
That's a tough poll.
I think we could have a report that would show people who got that, how we get our bills.
But we got them for this period.
David wanted to run a mental health center because I knew he'd be... Good, that's better.
Good.
And then Bob said he wanted to go to California.
I was playing with the idea of coexistence and existence.
Let's take a look at the state of the ship.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
As you know, though I still get back to the question, we have been attacked over and over again, many times it's been untrue.
The French embassy is going to say it's not a deception, but it was true.
What should we do up there?
We've got to take something like this.
We've lost another, we've lost one D-52 that we've had to, and one of the damaged ones got back to the base.
The other damaged one crashed, but it's not going to terrify us.
I don't know if we can cover all the people.
All three strikes were off-gun.
They're not used.
It's a murderous area, what are we going to do with this area?
Well, this is the exact place, however, we are expected to do three.
We've lost three now.
Well, we've lost, yes, infected.
Operationally, we've lost three.
They've actually shut down, I think, right now.
I have a question about it, because it's basically about the United States.
These planes just can't deliver as much as we'd like them to.
So what they see is that coming.
They can't take these guys back.
And the SA-2 was really designed to abandon the United States.
So, we're going to Illinois, but...
We don't go with T-52s.
We won't get anywhere in the weather because of the weather.
There are only three or four days that we can drive at all to the northern part of the country.
And they also shot down a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5 and a 10.5
The first two weapons were down.
One was shot down and one was dead.
No, they felt pretty good.
Actually, it was a good thing for me to go out with them.
Yeah, I did.
Because they picked it up then.
All of us.
We all went to San Diego.
We don't stand together, but it's a good thing from going out.
Going out to San Diego.
Sorry.
There's no question that any of us is a white man here.
But you know what I meant?
What I meant is that I just didn't, I don't want to layer the second guessing about that.
This time they were all, you talked to every one of them.
No, I talked to every one of them.
They were all part of it.
I don't think they were part of it.
I don't think they were part of it.
I don't think they were part of it.
They won't say anything against it.
They won't say anything against it.
They'll say it's a great idea.
Well, that to me is a flush.
Oh, yeah.
I think you'll get told about it.
I've talked about it before.
He's told everyone.
He didn't tell them?
No, he told them.
He told them.
He said, I didn't tell them anything.
No, he didn't go and say, well, I didn't know he was going to go.
He doesn't even have to say it.
They'll say they talked to him.
I remember they said four of them.
That was one of the old campers that he didn't know.
Yeah.
I don't know what you're talking about.
At this time, there's no question that no one should know what they've made.
It's a very good idea to have more...
I don't know what they were doing.
I don't know.
Now, let me ask you something about the situation at this time.
The money losses, you think the Air Force will want to knock it off?
I think we should go to a Christmas and then test what the situation is.
Christmas is good.
We have to knock off that anchor.
I would practically keep it going now.
Mark, I agree.
I'm asking you this.
What do we say about the airport?
Well, we may want to keep them out of Illinois.
This is doing a hell of a job.
We should keep it up now for three days and go in with...
But that's a no.
Keep it in a no.
But you don't need to use 52.
No, they have to keep it...
But if they can't, but if they...
The reason we're using 52 is you can't get any withered or the other one.
I think we ought to keep the 52 going up.
It might change the target.
Tomorrow they're going into 60.
They have to come into 120 today.
I think those three days we ought to let them go on the target that I said was not a good idea to show anything as a payback once you get going.
After that, I think we could potentially bear with this for ten days.
But that's to think you would then decrease when they knock out some of those centers.
They ought to be knocking out some of these centers, yeah.
They ought to bring over anything else.
And as a part of this, if you feel second after the first day,
This is the case with these purveys and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good things and good
What are you doing in my car?
Wait a second.
Nobody has another gang out of here.
That's what I'm trying to say.
I don't know how this video is.
In fact, you know, if we had done it right after the infection, I wouldn't have picked it up.
We couldn't do it if it was this guy there.
Or the cops.
No.
That's right.
I know I was smart.
But don't worry.
Don't worry about it right after the election.
It's right now.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Not for sure.
I'm not sure today.
I'm not just sure right after the election.
Not for sure.
It might have looked just like we took away from that election.
We had a war.
But here, if you've gone on the Turkish negotiation, we have shown that we've gone the extra mile and all that, and then we did.
No, there's a very strong case regarding exactly what we have.
It's a funny thing, how this thing.
There's no question, Mr. President.
That's what I wanted to talk about.
There's no question that we do a good thing.
You could have gotten through three more weeks, easy.
Oh, sure.
All I had to do was send him a message to propose Sanctuary 3 for a resettlement process, and all the old blood would have easy to receive of the country.
And then comes Sanctuary 15.
We're sitting there.
Christ don't want us.
We have paralyzed countries in the town.
And
And if you had waited, you see, they may declare a Christmas tree.
They may accept the...
Wait, how often that's right?
Well, they may say they would have left for Christmas to do this.
Then we have shot on it.
I would...
I'd just like to take a click for it.
Your best course is your reputation for brutal and very, very good.
that they want to turn off, they'll find a way out of it.
Never mind quotations from Churchill's critique of the Germans.
First battle of arms.
You see that in war, you can have either audacity or caution.
You can have one idea, but you can never have both at the same time.
I don't know.
I must say, you can take her out if you want to say about it.
I haven't found anybody that could offer anything else.
Well, I'm not just... Rogers isn't for a cave.
Well, I'm not just...
I'm not just looking to get...
I'm not just looking to get out of the nine and five.
Well, I suppose that's where we all are.
That isn't... You're not going to get any Cambodia stories out of this day and age.
How do you get out of the nine and five?
But then if you're our community, we're a pretty big share of that.
I would think so.
And I think externally, I don't need to take a press story because it's new.
So the loss of planes, the fact that you're all over.
And then again, the people don't know.
Listen, if you're 52 to 90% of the people in our country, it's no different than losing a helicopter.
Not as bad.
We did a lot of helicopters in more dramatic loss because there's always some, you know, someone that gets chopped up or something, they lose that.
A B-52 is another airplane.
It's got a full order and at least two out of each three planes that are crewed.
Okay.
A lot of these planes have been recovered.
One just got back to the base with the crash, but all this, like, all these, you know, they're in a very stable state.
I don't think that kind of costs money.
The thing that would get some heat on this, I would guess, in this country, would be...
But, you know, I forget the name of the country.
Probably, yeah, she knows.
The worst heat would make is for civilly slaughter of the patients.
and I don't think they'll get very far with that either.
But they may break all of the tokens.
That's good.
That's a good thing.
I'm just talking pussy.
I'm not too sure how much that would vary because I think that's been used.
You said the talks were an impasse.
That's understood.
What else is there between an impasse and broken arm?
I think the folks think this has been a rough thing.
We've had a hell of a time putting it together.
We still haven't got it put together.
I don't think America
Well, I'll tell you what.
I hope my letter is used and released.
But that isn't the best thing to do.
I said it would be.
Well, I have a question.
You're right.
The letter is right.
It hasn't been written.
It's time that you heard what you need to hear.
But this, I don't want to do any of that.
I've heard it.
He's the one.
He's the one.
He's the one.
He's the one.
He's the one.
All these crap issues that I've heard from Thomas...
Right.
...doesn't exist, because he should make them.
I have carefully drafted a decision to embrace the death... ...provision of demarcation, the demilitarized zone, and also the provision of as provided for in the Geneva agreement.
Which is exactly what the Geneva agreement says.
Death establishes...
Right.
...it is made permanent unless it is needed.
So by his trying to get the good respect in, they put in a quality cake.
And very well in the broth.
So what we had was good enough to live with.
We could have ran it through and gone with it.
He told us that if he screwed us up also, that he had to put that place, that public away, by putting out a new site on radio every time.
So yeah, he put it on his eviction.
I must say, that's the appeal.
And I agree with that.
So Hanoi, they did it any time they gave us a sentence.
You can see why he wanted to screw up Johnson, fortunately.
Because he thought Johnson was giving up bombing.
for nothing, and he was right.
But in our case, Mr. President, when you think what impressed, what gave you the chance to enter this country, what anybody thought was being done in October, all the news stories, right or left, were defaming the nature of the coalition government.
When I left for Saigon at the end of October, the fact that we could get a deal that would keep you in office, that the military could ameliorate,
No one would have thought that.
That's right.
If we could have pulled out this spectacular third son of a bitch that stood next to you two replayers and thanked you for what you had to see, there wouldn't be such a wave of gratitude in this country.
And I would expect that we could have done anything in Vietnam for the next five years.
You would have been a spectacular piece.
That's right.
Instead, he's pissed on our own achievement so much.
Then you give him three of most solid guarantees.
You are with me in the past that have eaten up nothing yet.
Very well.
You see, it is development, Chief.
There is no coalition.
Two states.
We get an economic aid when we agree.
At least we agree.
We get exactly our pay as soon as you create a political basis for staying down.
It is a historical drive that this man has to make.
We've been drilling into this concept ever since you did it, even more than quickly than me.
What is the protection for these men?
The confidence of the president, the confidence of the American people that we are behind.
Our guarantee, basically.
And our guarantee to keep tracks around about this sentence and this paragraph
Who the hell knows today what's in the track I'm going to get?
But the important thing is, we've made the decisions that track I've held.
And that fear is its own reality.
We're all supposed to be trying to communicate our lives together.
Do you remember that night?
Where was it?
Hangzhou?
Or Chang'an?
Hangzhou.
Not one person has ever erased any of this track that came up.
Solved the argument we went through.
Our experience with it, with three visitors, you ran them through and then rushed them.
That's right.
That's right.
If we had done it with that one, we couldn't do it with the last three visitors.
But if we had done it, what we'd be able to do with this distant sidecar, has acted like a snake.
Well, this is the judge.
I know it all along.
I know it all along.
I think that one thing, I guess I'm going to have to vote, is the bilateral field.
The question is whether or not that bilateral field, my problem there is not, it's a better idea now.
Because as I told you, I very much .
But let's just keep this thing down.
Because the point there is that in this country, there is a reaction .
There is a problem there.
But on the other hand, we've got to do the best we can.
We've got to take that approach we take now.
They were never given to us before.
That's the only thing we can say.
I've always resisted this.
Also because to buy the book, only to settle for getting out, it was sort of a hell of a way.
Right.
But I think one of the things that are going to happen, I didn't know what we were going to do in this office.
We've sent them a note that they're proposing.
They cut it out as well as they could before the party.
They deserve a visit.
They're not going to take out that note.
They're going to either reject that or expect it.
If they expect it, we'll know that.
They come to another meeting at the base of this party.
then everyone is going to be going to be stunned.
Everyone is going to have to shut up.
If they don't come to another meeting, then we have to find a new basis.
We may have to make a by-law, we may have to make a by-law, but there are two options.
One is that we leave the meeting without a stand-in.
The other one is that we flush them out.
Yes, but now this is what he prefers.
And by agreement, we're going to go in and have these made a great priority as the country gets to this union.
Thank you.
Flexibility, flexibility of the body is impossible.
But anyway, the main thing, even on that, even on that though, the maintenance is critical.
Right, Bob.
And we don't have to do it on the second person because I don't believe that hundreds, I think that two to three of them, that's it.
That would be, I think, two to three of them.
Yeah.
You're making reasons for it.
And I'll be in.
And I'll be at the floor.
But don't.
Don't.
That's such a good idea.
But we can't decide it next week.
We'll have an answer from the Lord.
And show the Lord.
Because we're going to do it.
As far as we have, we didn't look at our options.
We didn't ask you to say, no, I don't believe you can talk.
We're up against a harder place than we have to lose business.
We're worried.
We may have a good follow-up question that we're going to take and come back and say, you said you didn't want to go, but you didn't have to buy a home at all.
We've got to go.
Any other way that we can take it?
Okay.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
We may want to instead of not.
You take a positive move.
You make a new offer.
... ... ...
And in the end, all that matters is what happens.
Sure, it's a tough thing.
There's been much of an issue with the attack around here.
You came back and said, well, let's keep talking.
Let's keep talking.
Let's keep talking.
What else could you have done?
You said we're on our own post-election.
We could have said another day.
We could have said that, Commander, we wanted to set it up even more carefully.
We waited for it to be a good fit.
I said we'd wait for another week.
We might have done two or three.
What you've got to operate on now, though, is that, and you can operate with almost virtual certainty, that 25 to 30 percent of the people in this country think that what you're doing in Vietnam is wrong.
55 to 60 percent think what you're doing is wrong, and the rest aren't sure what it is.
They don't know.
You've got to solve it up two to one of those who know what they think, who think you're doing the right thing versus those who think you're doing the wrong thing.
And that, when you're in this controversial and as touchy a policy area as this, is a hell of a solid basis of work.
I mean, you've just got to look at the confidence that you have now.
And on that basis, dude, that's day one.
They didn't know who they were.
Who was there?
It's one hell of a decision to break off the talk, because if they do, it doesn't matter how hard we hit them.
Cambodia, or whatever, they never broke off if they did.
Now, they were playing with 36, so they're not anywhere near.
Yeah, I see that.
And to get the benefit of no American action.
From then, they made a reason about the country that they were going to.
They made a reason about the country that they were going to.
They wanted to know that everyone had been together for four years, had been together against all problems.
And even this time...
The building portion of Tending having to stand for real action, which you don't ever have to do again.
That's the problem with greed.
In a sense, you make it almost impossible for them.
In a sense, it makes it impossible for them to keep what they hate.
We're not old.
We've got everything.
We cannot discontinue.
Some bond, in an oil area, some.
That doesn't mean it's all out stuff.
We cannot discontinue until we get the agreement.
Don't you agree?
I think that the best response you can throw is that it would be fine.
You've got to keep going.
You've got to continue to bond for a reason, if you're going to wear it.
We had to.
The trouble was we were committed to stopping bonding altogether.
And Saigon was used for a long time, so it was hard.
I don't know if they're going to get found because Saigon wanted to be amped to death.
So we cut it off because we thought it was a very good idea to get it.
But I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
If they hadn't been on the road, they wouldn't have taken the drive.
The approach the Star takes tonight is pretty good.
I mean, that may be the only...
The Star is on the line.
Yeah, well, see, it was starting out.
We had confirmed that the Hanoi had announced this morning that we had received a demand.
And that's not working well.
But the approach they take is that the United States stepped up and intensified its pressures
for a peace settlement on both the military and diplomatic fronts today.
Hank I. Haig was dispatched as I'd done in other countries and that sort of thing.
And it was learned that intensified bombing.
We had to do something.
We had to do something.
Thank God we did a 10-8.
You weren't into it when I told you.
Oh, yeah, over there.
Oh, I thought it was... Oh, that train.
Well, it was an experience.
Well, it was a blinding performance because of the blind man.
He was telling us we were all going to go to... And we should have... Really, haven't you been conciliatory enough?
You mentioned to me, you raised the point that you thought through the needs...
On the other hand, he said, you realize, of course, countries can cut off your funds in two weeks.
After that meeting, on the one hand, he was saying things whose practical consequences would be to start a military operation and not to do the military operation.
On the other hand, he wanted us to make ourselves the prisoners of two which said which made a concept of peace.
It was really to think that he might be better than us.
Right, because never his one.
He always perceives the obvious and assumes that it is his scheme to reveal the other.
Correct.
And all these lies are not exactly the same.
And that's what we decided to do, what the President decided to do, is to do it on both Chupacabra, to get some freedom on both of them.
And God, we missed Christmas, because he would have gone out there and started to worship.
I think if we hadn't had that agreement, he might have dreaded Christmas.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, he would have gone over this before he left.
He would have found out.
Well, he was a double-crossed kid in the sense of backing off.
If he understood his mission and accepted it, I think he would have carried it out.
But now, this would be much too complex to do it.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
Well, we can't send him.
I don't think he'll ever have an interview.
He would never have to do all of this.
I read all the church itself, and corresponded.
I wrote about self-correspondence, and I started writing about it.
And I'm thinking of the other two, the allies and the corruptors, and I get to find out what the other one is.
Yeah, but that's after a month and a half of believing and trusting and faith.
You did three hours with him.
You did the fifth.
Yeah.
You laid all of it.
God has come to write back with it all the time.
To offer to meet you with midlife.
Before and after.
Before and after.
If I didn't sing for many hours for Christmas.
It doesn't have to.
It doesn't even rise to thank you very much.
I appreciate the answer.
It does have an incident there.
That's impressive.
I'm going to change the passage.
I think we could change that.
I've had a takeover of Graham Hodge.
Nobody ever mentioned him to McComber.
McComber asked him whether he, McComber, should put him on foot cycling.
McComber is a student and he felt, you know, he said,
Uh, no, I don't want you to put me up to anything.
Yeah, of course the president will decide that I'm going to go.
Actually, now there should be...
This wasn't an answer, I can tell you.
No, it wasn't.
I mean, I'm not going to erase it.
You see, it wasn't that they said you wanted him to go to Saigon.
The Congress said, now that both of you are going to be...
Uh, what phone should be put you on?
What should be put you on?
But always as a space monitor control room.
So... Well, it may have been McComber on a purely clerical bookkeeping peddling saying... What do you mean?
What did I give him now?
Because the power, I don't think, would have moved in to screw it up.
But then, having done that, he probably reported to Rodgers, well, I talked to Grant Martin, and he said he didn't want to give it up for Saigon, and Rodgers translated that, and he doesn't want to go to Saigon, and called me and said, Grant Martin isn't interested in Saigon.
But now he doesn't want to do it.
He said, if you want him to go, he really has a good attitude.
He said, if he decided to go at all, then he's going to have to do it.
He said, I think we should get him there soon.
I'd like to tell you, everybody, right now, I love him.
I hate him.
I love him back.
Great.
And just say that we, actually, I think that we ought to say to Bunker that we feel that at the end of the year, we haven't understand that he would come at the last time for change.
And get him out there right now.
He's really open for a while.
You see my point is that I think getting a new man on that scene is a bad idea.
Actually, you could move both beyond it, but you don't have to look.
I just need that.
Do you think it's a recessive one?
That's going to confirm anyway that you care about a hurry thing.
Oh, we've done that with other candidates.
Well, we haven't had it.
It would look bad if we hadn't had it in the back of the candidates for a month.
We should send somebody to respond to it.
Oh yeah, that's a great idea.
I think that would be great.
Not yet.
I forgot about this, but I'm very good.
It was a hell of an important call.
That's why you should make it.
You all should check them, too.
I said, you know, sort of like a television presenter, right?
That's what I got, yeah.
Well, he's a little soft.
I don't think so.
I've got to say, there are almost no career ambassadors over 60.
There's no part-time service ambassador.
There's a bunch of artists that are over 60.
In about the years of 69.
We used to be on 8-0 in the mid-68s.
We dropped, or ran in the mid-64s.
One of the new career ones, he was a 16-count street racer.
Oh, okay.
Has he ever been accepted?
No.
Yeah?
Yeah.
He was a J-15 in the 64s.
He was a fellow at the place.
Went to an N-8 in the 64s.
He really had a good life.
I've got a little blue bell in the planet.
Well, I don't think she does.
And Tosca and Barber.
Well, Barber's got enough.
Barber's got enough.
Barber's 64.
What about Tosca?
Tosca's 6.
I don't know.
How about hospitalization?
That's a good question.
He's a business man.
He's a fighter.
He knows that he could get a career out of it, a career in AIDS.
I don't think that's a good question.
I don't think that's a good question.
Well, Tosca is virtually his strong point.
He's incompetent, basically.
He's incompetent.
But he can't shoot.
He's got a plan.
He's got a plan.
I'll let you know about that other guy.
I said seven.
Yeah, everybody wanted to come earlier, so.
Oh, that will get you out of here.
No, no, that's fine.
I have a way to line up that girl who was in Freddy's magazine.
I have her on a magazine this week.
Yeah, I'm trying.
I have a picture of a new girl.
I have more.
I thought that was a good idea.
He's at least doing what he's supposed to.
He isn't.
Oh, yeah, you're scared to look at the chief.
Well, you know, as I understood, that was the name of the game.
Oh, absolutely.
They couldn't back off of it now.
Now, Maurer, I don't want Maurer over the second guest list.
He's not the second guest list.
No, no, no, that isn't the problem.
The problem with Maurer is that he's really only interested in disturbing.
And what he's never done is put somebody in charge of the strategic direction of the war.
When May gets over there, we ought to get that done.
Good luck.
God bless you.
God bless you.
God bless you.
God bless you.
Well, if the fans play and the club plays, we can do it.
They're proud of the boys.
They're proud of the boys.
They're proud of the boys.
Well, I think I woke it up Wednesday.
Oh, yeah.
that I'll be free, and all the rest of that.
I don't know what to do.
I don't know what I want for you to finish with your job.
John's going to be gone.
Oh, Christ.
John leaves tomorrow?
No.
Well, let's go over the things John's interested in.
All right.
The, uh...
There have been a list on undersecretaries, which is where we're still in the cleanup spot.
We've come down now, well, ATW, we've got a good list of outside candidates of varying kinds of capabilities.
He's been going around and around on it yesterday, every Saturday.
He wants Carlos to shoot him.
And that's what we came in with.
Good.
Go ahead.
Gives you the Italian.
Gives you a guy you know.
He'll do what he's proud of.
After all, that's good.
And it gets him out of the state of mind.
That's what we want.
He's very confident.
All right.
That's what we want.
All right.
So, good.
That's where we end up on that night.
You should see Carlos.
He'll take it.
All right.
That's fine, it's a fine appointment condition, but that's just the way it is.
If I started on this road, seeing these guys, it's just not going to be done.
But, which is a good, if we had thought ACW was a good place to put in an outsider, it's a problem.
There's getting someone in here to get a hold of that.
I think we ought to lose an outsider because some of the backup goes there.
Yeah, yeah.
That's right.
On Hood, again, a fair number of outside guys, the best of which probably is Count Middleton.
He's got the best qualifications.
The problem is, he's indicated that, uh, Unicron indicated, uh, Peter, uh, said it was excess of bad information.
Well, he indicated, what he really wants to be is, is SEC chairman.
And we've been, uh, under his consideration for a long time.
That's a good call.
Yeah.
That's Casey.
Thank you.
But he's the kind of guy who needs maybe more of us.
Then we've got several other outside guys like, well it's got Eagleston from California, who's damn good.
And Al Bundy from California.
But let me say that in that hood, I really believe that the top guy is such a good manager.
It's so tough that you can afford it outside of the club.
That's right, John.
That's what we thought was the thought.
So we're on a ticket to be a good outsider, and I don't think we are.
One thought that arises there, we've got one black that says, looks like a good prospect.
If you really want to go for black, what is the best place for a black?
Not a club.
Not a club.
Not a club.
Not a club.
Not a club.
Not a club.
Not a club.
Yeah.
With Dent, it would be probably... Oh, that's right.
We did think of him and said he couldn't do that.
We thought it was pretty obvious that there were black people in Dent.
That's right.
I'm not sure there were black people in Dent.
We're not...
I think, incidentally, a couple of black staffers would be pretty good at doing that.
And Woodley may find another place to work.
Yeah.
But I hope not.
Yeah.
The feeling of commerce with him is probably a little bit weak, is not quite the word, but he needs some help.
He needs help from somebody who's been around for a long time.
There is a very good man at IFA, who is the number two guy that's been running IFA while I was hustling out and having speeches.
He's a management consultant type.
He's not a black consultant.
He's very vital to the KYS.
There's always somebody with him.
And he's 37 years old.
He's a young guy.
Good.
He's very competent.
But you'll never know he's in the room.
Good.
What is that?
Kansas.
And Rice University, unfortunately, has another Harvard MBA.
Oh, that's good.
Go ahead.
You know what I mean.
I'm not going to do anything.
I'm just going to do the best I can and follow along.
He had a phenomenal record, age 37.
President of Mitchell Hutchins.
He sounds like a little more of a follow-up.
He's an investment banker.
He did a little institutional brokerage.
He was hit by his records.
And the only reason that I would come down for the other guy is that he's had three years of experience in America.
And his Congress need him after three years.
His Congress is a big bureaucracy because it does look good then at the head of it.
It wouldn't if you had us.
Marty was not able to run the conference.
Siciliana ran the conference.
And then Lynn ran the conference.
And Peterson tended to run the conference more than Marty ever had.
But it's a real struggle.
We've got a place for the 37th, the other guy, and some other job.
I think, too, he's a hot property.
He's a hot property of digging and assistance.
So he's going to go up and do it.
I guess you're right.
I guess you're right.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's right.
Jim Querrey is definitely trying to turn this down.
And he doesn't want me to do this.
We haven't made that up.
That's definitely the reason.
The hot shoes.
He said, you know, if I close the business today, I can call right now.
I can call right now.
I can call right now.
I can call right now.
I can call right now.
I can call right now.
I can call right now.
I can call right now.
I can call right now.
I can call right now.
It's a very, he's got a huge international leasing operation that is pretty heavily after them, I guess.
I don't think it's an anachronism to the European community.
I don't think that is.
Well.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
He's a first grade prospect.
He looks.
Any point where he comes out on paper, he says, hell, what's that?
We need to check with the SEC.
Wow.
They have a piece here.
I love that piece.
We put through that piece.
On paper, we put it.
He's had a lot of those.
He founded a systems engineering computer programming company at the beginning of it.
He ran that for six years.
He's a strong man at FTC, but if you think he's strong, I just wondered why not.
He's got a lot of computers.
Back then, he was the director of the computer branch of the Ordnance Tank.
Then he went into this policing system.
He's the director of Jason and Hath Bank.
But he had everything.
Let's look at it from that standpoint.
S.E.C.
is an electrical engineer.
We've got him on a lot of lists.
He's horrible technical systems.
He's played by a hell of a good job in the factory line.
Like, what have you got for Secretary of the Army, Navy, and Air Force, for example?
Oh, we've got a...
Problem?
No, we've got another problem with John Lowe.
Tell me what you want to accomplish.
You've talked about Pat Gray for, you know, getting him out of the Navy thing.
We don't know the reason.
The question arises as to why put John Warner out because he's been in debt with the Navy.
John Lowe wants to come into the government.
He's not burning to, he'd like to.
And then we've got some other, you know, we've got a, this is Joseph Albrechti that we've raised for a lot of them.
He's a good Catholic.
He's got a good identity.
But I helped, and that is exactly why I presented our grades.
And suppose they're still checking on it.
It's supposed to be Tom Hannigan.
It's supposed to be quite a property.
David, who we heard from earlier.
I can't have somebody in that European community who's a builder, you know, a Peterson type, basically.
And also, you've got that nine-quarter Russian government community.
Somebody else, you know, Hodgkin.
I don't know.
Hodgkin may not want me to want to be gone.
Well, in fairness to him, Governor Rogers told him it'd take two weeks to think about it.
But he had a scum in the rooftop.
So, I did all of it Saturday.
I said, Jim, we've got to hand your hands to the DCP.
I put the line down.
He said, Bill, we're going to need a lot of time.
I said, Bill, we're going to need a lot of time.
I said, Bill, we're going to need a lot of time.
Well, Nick, I heard him off, and I said we have to know by Monday, so I didn't go over to do that.
So, we made it quite a close business today.
Oh, sure.
But you see, Rogers is not anxious to trade the guy he met over there.
And so that's what's going on there.
I'm a service secretary.
Let me raise John Warren over here.
I think, uh...
He's an old man.
He makes a damn good presentation, and he's done a fair job.
All right.
Let's keep one.
Change the other two.
Sure.
Well, the other two aren't ours.
Warner is, so that's fine.
Fair enough.
Change the other two.
Do you want to put those in there?
I think you're a good southerner.
Good Republican political southerner.
and I'm Sean, so maybe you've covered that space.
No, no, no.
I'll do it another time.
It's deep south.
We don't need to be out.
Okay.
Go, Colorado.
That's good.
Love, do you have any discernment?
Love has never sent me very much, frankly, I don't know.
He could only, but he hasn't asked for them.
No point where somebody said, we're going to appoint a governor, why not pick one of our governors?
I'm glad it was Laura.
I had you to name one.
Love was a rock and a rock.
Well, I mean, I understand that he should have been a crocker, but he said, well, I didn't love to be something else like a Venetian.
I wouldn't mind.
He was with a lot of Air Force.
He was very pro-field.
He was on the Air Force Academy.
He said, oh, no, no.
The Air Force, let's give that to a real old goer.
He went from goer to goer.
That might be it.
Yeah.
That might be it.
Yeah.
Oh, national.
Well, we'd like one for an idea with, uh, Martin, uh, Barnacle.
Well, we have a better idea.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, if that doesn't, if that doesn't, well, I don't know.
I'm trying to talk.
Martin, he's a good one.
He's got a super wife.
Oh, right.
He'd be good.
He'd be great.
I think he's fun.
I mean, he'd be a great guy to run around the world because he loves to be a fun man.
That's, that's his bag of tricks.
We've got several ramps.
We've got Collins and then we've got the rest of the state right now.
They're all sort of handling themselves pretty well.
We've got one.
I think Collins has gotten a piece of it.
Farmer's judgment is pretty good on which one to adapt or not.
I asked him to see if he'll take those calls and see whether or not he thinks they're all to be adapted to the airport and the judgment of the airport.
And I asked him, all right, I think the space guys are good men.
John, if there's one thing I did want to mention to you, be sure you watch the general counsel for the department, I'm sure, and the general counsel to the commission.
So you're doing that, are you?
I am.
As a matter of fact, we're working on the fence today.
There's a traffic jam on that because the general council is a very strong government guy.
And so we're finagling with that.
The departments are important, but the general councils, the federal power commission, the federal trade commission, the SBC, are enormously important.
I guess we appointed them.
Not the regular power commission.
Who appointed them?
The commission itself.
Well, all of our agencies and the others we can address.
On the FTC, we have a chairman who's going to move away from it.
Why not?
He's a solid young guy.
He's probably 33, 34.
Right.
He's certified.
That's fine, fine, fine.
I like the young guy.
Strongly oriented.
Actually, I find he knows MLS identity.
Right.
Good.
That's good.
What about the, you know, for OEO, we came down on William Carey.
who is now General Counsel at the Guadalcanal Commission of Pedestrian Health.
And for the CAB,
There you go.
The point is, Chairman, the consensus strongly, and this is one of the counties that pushed for it, is Tim, who is the Republican, a Republican, and then Robbins, for him, on the board now.
That's all positive.
Because he recommended it, fair enough.
Okay.
But he comes, all the right people to have it, doesn't he?
Yeah.
Used to be a state chairman, I would say.
Yes, and then he was, he had all these
I said, all right, he's fine, he's fine.
Just to be sure, Connell said, you know, John, on that one, right?
I said, sure.
And all of a sudden, he's making it.
And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, they were going to say one thing.
And the woman came through.
And I saw it.
And I sat down and I said, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That was nice to have that kind of a next question.
I have a hundred seconds to reply to that.
Well, it's a decent signal to the structure.
I didn't know who the hell they were.
But you see, they got a chance to sit there and I delivered them.
They don't talk to them, so they kind of knew what they were doing.
I'm the one that talked to them.
And the way they leave.
And the way they leave.
We shouldn't have people like that.
Sometimes at our tables.
Because that's all the time.
Instead of, you should never have Adele Rogers at your table.
I don't.
I don't listen to Adele Rogers.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
But I'm not going to say what.
It wasn't in that.
But somebody said it.
Talked to somebody.
I don't know.
I think I've heard about it.
I'm sure that I've never heard of it.
I'm not sure.
A lot of people.
I said it.
I always remember the old rules.
Everybody thinks you've got your land.
Everybody.
Unless it's a land that's long.
Then, that's one of the problems with that.
They can't provide you all the help.
But the point is, everybody, on one reason, left John Connolly.
Everybody was pretending that he was getting his way.
So you're supposed to do that.
You're supposed to make the calls.
I know it's troublesome.
It's troublesome for everyone.
Good.
Another interesting prospect, I'm moving Tim up to chairman of the CABO, this is Steve.
Uh, manager's got a good woman for that.
One of the women is a real secret, who is by, president of her own company, and the, uh, she's the oldest woman ever elected to the mayor's office.
Good.
Third, that she's specialized in the field of aviation, including airlines.
Next one's for that.
What's the penitentiary again, Rick?
I can't call that forward.
And action.
Oh boy.
Oh, that's about the way we come out.
The guy, the guy I end up with is that, I don't know, I guess we'll go back to the drawing board on that.
He was a White House fellow, he sat around here, you know, and, you know, it's just somebody that didn't want to build it.
Well, that's important.
It's got to be somebody who would talk to him.
That's why a budget director... Maybe you'd better take somebody that's a white person, I don't know.
Or somebody that's... You don't want to walk around and say, you know, I don't think so, I guess, at least.
Well, there's a lot of good jobs.
It's kind of got a big and it has a lot of broad areas.
Right.
Well, that's the area we can really...
They're really important.
They need business plan.
We solved a lot of our old 68 advancements with those slots.
And they did the, you know, we solved some more at this time.
Yeah.
Right.
The other thing we can run through quickly is the basic action plan for trimming.
staff and changing functions in the executive office, which really is how we get, get people overall in the executive office down.
Okay.
I don't know.
He went out.
Okay, go ahead.
Just a quick rundown, so you know what's involved here.
The PSAC, the plan is to transfer that to the National Science Foundation, so it's quite close to that.
Apologies to Kevin for the uneconomic policy, but that's the function of the Economic Council.
Back to the President.
What's the policy to the Economic Council?
We've performed that about 30 years ago, so I think you put together and mixed that together.
Oh yeah, Session 4, Romney, I don't get involved with it.
We're just trying to knock some of these things, get that out back into the new framework.
Transfer FIA to the NSC, in other words, put it as a, it now reports directly to you, make it report through the NSC where it belongs, so direct tied in.
Others that are probably angry about that.
Yeah, you may lose some members on that.
No, no, no, no.
It won't hurt.
Yeah, it's just it moves the staff up.
Yeah.
So where are you going?
Oh, it's better to move the staff back in.
All right.
I've got to transfer the Office of Science and Technology to the National Science Foundation.
There's 50 positions in the OSD.
And it's established.
Now, we can't abolish it without legislation, but see what we'll do is move the whole thing to the National Science Foundation, make the head of the NSF, the head of the OSD, except it diverges.
So can you do that?
Yeah, legally.
Yep.
And, John, we can go to the legal department.
That's where we're at right now.
Yeah, all right, making the same guy have both posts.
Just like your science advisor now holds also a post that has the OSD in your name.
David is out.
He's got, doesn't want to take the AAC job, man.
He's trying to take this private industry position.
He's got to go.
He's got to, he's been thankful.
Oh, what did I say?
So you were mentioning this thing.
how much you haven't done.
How about a plumber's group?
I've got to answer to the, you know, part-time commission on those things.
I'll give that, you know, some of those lines that, well, the ones that presidents have to go over, why they all broke their asses.
They, like, for example, there's a commission on the arts, and I don't know what they're on, but the money was a nice thing.
They didn't have to come back to Washington and move away.
Okay.
That was a special trade right there.
That's Everly's job.
Alright, the Space Council.
Everly doesn't want to do anything.
Well, the question is whether we can merge that office with something else.
Well, I think that would Everly take Europe.
The Earth could get hot if she doesn't.
Yeah, I think he would.
That's a hell of a good job.
Now, I'd like Everly there.
Everybody's a first-class pilot.
That's my point.
I need to take that, and I was impressed by it, but I think Hachi really wants to step into my area.
I think he's, you know, the Space Council, which is 60 jacked positions.
Or would everybody take OECD?
I don't know.
We've got to, you know, go ahead, the Space Council.
Well, I had everybody on that list, but everybody in Europe is my first choice to be in each team.
It's a community job.
And frankly, if it turns out, it might improve him into the run for opposition, too.
You see, if he just proves to be a strong enough man, I suspect he can pack that.
Yeah.
Well, it should be merged.
Yeah, merge it then.
Don, he established there then.
It'll get him established.
But I have in mind that Everly would be... Hux, basically, is not as strong a man as Everly.
He's not really, but he doesn't take it.
I wish he'd go back to Geneva or something.
Space Council, we can transfer to NASA.
Just observe it in the agency and make the head of NASA the head of the Space Council.
That's what it makes.
That's set up for the...
It's established by law, so you can't abolish it.
But how are you determined?
What's happening is established by law.
And what do you say it is?
We continue to have it, but you just double-team the people who don't have it.
You have to have a head of it.
It doesn't require...
It does not require a three-art division.
I know.
I know.
So you say I hereby direct you to participate in the pledge or I designate you the Executive Director of the National Aeronautics and Space Council?
Right.
And then what do you do with the people?
Well, then you abolish them.
You might as well employ the assigned functions.
Whatever they're supposed to do, NASA just takes off.
The intergovernmental relations we already shifted.
And, uh,
fairness, that will cause us to divide that up, right?
All the assignment of duties for that is by the president.
So he has to allocate the things, and they've got a line for it.
The disaster relief goes to HUD, the computers goes to GSA, underground facility goes to defense, the stockpile policy goes to GSA.
But aren't you ready?
What do you do with the man?
He's retired.
Okay, don't put him in the position.
Go ahead.
He's probably over here.
But the difficulty is...
I was going to say, what is your message?
Okay, the opportunity to put a man in.
You want to have somebody on the National Security Council appoint him on the director of the OEP.
And then what does he have to do?
He sits in the Security Council.
And he can do anything else he wants to do.
He can leave one of these functions there, or he can supervise it out of one of these slots.
He can supervise it.
Well, I would say this.
I think that this is such a hell of a good job.
I mean, NSC, it's a hell of a good job for, well, let's face it, for my friend on the FBI.
But it's a hell of a good job for somebody that would want to have it.
I don't know.
Well, I don't know.
Leave it vacant for now.
Vacant at the present time.
You know that you have a slot there.
See if we serve these things out.
We need to find a really good place to get all the stuff put out.
You can't leave any function for him.
How could he have anything to do with your party?
Well, you'd have to redefine it.
Or what you might have is someday you might have a cabinet officer, the director of the Secretary of State Department that you wanted to have sit at the National Security Council.
You could simply, by quiet action, appoint him director of the OEP.
I think that's a good idea.
Now, is there any one of those little functions you could leave for her so it gives her a little bit of strength?
You could leave just a small one.
Doctrine and policy is the smallest set.
What?
That would go under GSA.
What?
Let me see others.
Name the others.
Disaster relief.
No, I don't want that set.
That's 100 people.
I don't want that.
Mathematical computer lab.
No.
75 people.
No.
The underground facility.
See you back here, huh?
For fairness, total position is 323.
My point is, wouldn't she be great in that position?
I think that'd be fine.
It puts her on the National Security Council.
It puts a woman in there in the so-called peace council.
I'd like to have her sitting in there.
She's smart enough.
And she then gets a real office of emergency preparedness.
Okay, let's work that out.
And counselor with the president.
Yeah.
Okay, Officer.
Consumer Affairs, the thought there is to move the post of advisory to working through the counselor agreement resources and move the staff to AGW.
That's a staff of 52 people.
All right.
But you wouldn't move any.
I expect to move these staffs out.
That would result in a reduction, of course, of chair titles.
You mean why?
How?
You rip some of it and put some of it in.
Don't replace some of it in the agency.
It'll result in production.
Some of it will quit.
Don't replace it.
Yeah, just by moving some of these things.
That would be awesome.
Now, on the consumer affairs thing, John, that's an exhibition place.
It shows you don't care about the disaster product.
Keep the title.
Keep the title.
She's still in the office of the president.
She is reporting the wine burger instead of the...
I'll show you.
operations.
That lady, who is his assistant to the president for consumer affairs, can be given a raise in dollar income by making her the deputy director of the office she heads.
The deputy director's slot pays more than her slot.
All right.
All right.
All right.
We have the same process on the Environmental Quality Council.
You can move that to the natural resources and consulate staff to get 65 and so on.
But now wait, how does that really happen?
The old 65 is still, they're all in over here in the old group still.
No, they're sitting over here in a little house, a square.
They'll stay there.
The old 65.
And they said they'll have their three, kind of their three guys trained in the other group.
Right.
That way you don't move the staff out to the other group.
There's no reduction there.
There's no reduction in the line of reporting, Chief.
to VOTS, it's going to be the Council for Natural Resources.
Does that downgrade my interest in the environment?
Sure it does.
But it was angry in the summer, you know.
Not quite angry in the summer.
Yeah, oh yeah, we've seen this downgrade.
But you're doing it for everyone.
Does it bother you?
No, because you see, you're doing it as part of a control system.
Nobody reports to you directly anymore.
Not the FIAT, not anybody.
Which is the way it ought to be.
It's supposed to reorganize people, but it can't work that way.
There are 99 people reporting directly to the truck.
There is no executive in the world who does that.
Now, every congressman who has an interest in consumer affairs is going to be upset about this.
It's been argued that the only way for consumers to get a fair shake is if their representative reports directly to the truck.
They do.
They do have a representative.
And our case has got to go back the other way, which is they can't possibly get a fair shake that way
The lady doesn't qualify as a chief.
You still talk to her.
Oh, you talk to her.
But what do they say to the Congress?
This isn't going to affect any relations with the Congress.
They're going to come back and say, yes, but you've downgraded our particular pet interest, which is the environment.
And so you're going to have to be prepared for a certain amount of flack as a result of doing all this.
what we're doing and strengthens your counselor.
Makes that much more meaningful.
I don't argue against it.
I just want to understand.
I've got to be realistic.
I've got to be, I mean, what are you?
I'm all for it.
The OEO, which is our biggest problem, we've got 2,000 people there.
The plan is to delegate that out across the board.
Right.
And we haven't got the hell out, but we have finally zeroed on this.
Right.
The next year.
Okay.
Drug abuse, we're going to leave as a special office because it shows the interest that... Well, we're going to study the whole reorganization where, you know, where... Ag is long.
I mean, Ag is going to be studied right away.
Yeah.
But you're going to leave the drug abuse ban.
What about, like, the cancer ban?
What are you going to do?
But it's going to stay as is.
But our drug abuse guy is waiting fantastically.
So we're going to take DuPont.
We're running a program here in the city with a young guy who's about 36.
And that's had a good record.
And we'll put him in there.
But when he goes in, it'll be with him and Chang.
And we have a reorganization under study.
So he doesn't think he has a good right to that job.
A little closer to home, Presidential Protective Division.
Bob Taylor, moving out.
This really is kind of a question, it boils down really to two choices.
By far, the most outstanding member of the Presidential Protective Division is Dick Kaiser.
Kaiser, yeah.
The other candidate would be Bill Duncan.
Who ranks who?
Duncan ranks.
The way it is now, Duncan is the deputy special agent in charge.
So he is Taylor's deputy.
If you followed the regular course, Duncan would move up.
And we could put Kaiser, who is one of the three in the next rank, up to deputy.
And that would be a logical process.
If you want to get the best man, we can make the jump with Kaiser.
That poses a real problem for Duncan.
We'd have to put him someplace else.
And move somebody else.
If we did that, if we moved Hal Thomas up as deputy, who is this guy, the guy that was head of the
The tall dark-haired guy.
The dark-skinned guy who is the third best guy in the operation.
He was there to do the detail.
We were all Irish men.
Hell of a good man.
Well, what could you do for a gunman in that case?
Very good man.
Very good man.
The value, I would recommend the Kaiser move simply because Kaiser programs better with us.
The Duncan problem, as you know, is he is so totally square that he's overprotected.
We move him into a high post in the Secret Service outside of presidential protection.
Let's get him.
Basically what they're all going to do is go to the house and give it to the children and the children.
Who goes to the rally spot?
The media.
Well, we've got to work that out.
We've got to make sure things are good.
The rally, we've got to give it to the society.
We've got to give it to the left-hand.
Rally?
Yeah, you can have the normal retirement pay.
Well, I assume that's good.
And we haven't understood that he leaves on a normal retirement.
I think it has to do with that.
Yeah.
Well, it is tough.
It's tough.
I mean, after all, they put this all the time.
It certainly has.
Well, it gets down to the personal thing.
I don't think I am very good with it either.
You know, I don't feel like I'm close to it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I do, I do.
They are, too.
Dave Grant and Ron Pontius are both L.A. kids.
They're all good.
And so it's good to work.
Right.
Right.
I hope so.
I hope you know.
What can we do?
Could Duncan pick Charlie Rock?
Is it this?
Is it Secret Service trying to do something else?
Oh, yeah.
What I need is their position.
We can just say that, Duncan, now look, you've been in this job for...
There is a position outside the president to protect you, but they want you to step up for him.
I want him to, if you could step him up and say, look, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,
He was in charge of the training at one time.
He ran that school there.
What I'm getting at is, I guess you've got to keep, but on the other hand, he was a special agent in Omaha.
Then he, in 67, he was in the training division.
Then he came back to the position of protection.
He spent seven, he spent
I mean, I'm trying to figure a device that would make it more stomachable for companies and professors, especially in St. Louis, and then came in and presented protection in 64.
And it's been in that ever since.
It's a graduate of criminology from Indiana.
It's got a very good economics education and history from that day on.
Actually, I was assuming I had Duncan going to the rally job.
I haven't.
You see?
Frankly, let me show you, let me show you what I had in mind.
I didn't go to shit with any of the super service.
Rowling.
I don't think of them.
I don't see rowling.
I care very much who's the guy that runs our table.
Right?
Yeah.
So, if you could tell something, look, if I could put it on, let's just put it on, put it in the wrong job.
I need to go into that deputy director in charge of, you know, on the protection of something, you know, the bugs, you know.
Well, as I told you, I'm just basing that on Revozo.
He's got fairly good accession.
He drinks a little too much, plays a little too much.
I think I just don't want that kind of guy to have a little...
to rally John, basically because he is such a, you know, a square and disciplinarian, et cetera, et cetera.
See what I mean?
Okay.
And he is, and I would make it effective to rally if you can.
But you can tell them that when rally retires, if this rally retires, well, in the next four years, John, he retires in 73.
Oh, fine.
Good.
That's what's coming in that job.
Or do you have somebody else in mind for that?
No, that's a hell of a number, don't you think?
We'll find out.
We'll see what he does.
Yeah.
I think he must have gone out or six months or whatever.
Yeah.
Gone to that club that was more than one.
Yeah, go say this.
Say, Bill, look, we're going to make a very important decision as a president.
You know, John Cage.
Here's the story to tell.
Do you remember any John Cage ever?
No, we're 200 generals.
Yeah, 150 generals.
Actually, it's one thing to be a part of the rally job, but it's always, you know, if you're better than everybody else, you're always going to be a doctor, an athlete, or, you know, a general.
I don't put you in the deputy here.
This is not a promise, but what I'm going to do is I want you in a position where you are not, you know, where you are a broader executive position.
And then we'll see.
But in fact, we want you to know we're considering it.
And we've got to see whether we can ride it through at that time.
Now, Ed Martin is going to be working closely with him.
And we want to see how you cooperate.
And then put Kaiser in another job.
How does that sound to you?
I understand.
The main thing is, I just, then I have to value you on our job.
And put Kaiser really better.
I know.
But what do you look for in school?
I don't know.
Are we that much?
I guess we are.
I'll tell you, it doesn't make a damn who was sitting over there in that building.
That's my point.
So we need this fellow here, and he'll have a chance to do well, too, sometime.
But I do feel, frankly, that Dr. Nigel has to be treated.
He is such a do-it-for-the-book guy that he can drive you right up the wall.
And I don't understand.
I don't want to say, you know, maybe Duncan's right.
I just feel that I think he's better than the other thing.
But I think I've had enough.
And that gives you a chance to run the thing the way you want.
John doesn't want to do it.
Yeah.
Another question is, would you want to receive the apostolic delegate for a couple minutes to receive the Pope's message on peace, which he's asked you to?
If I receive it, the Pope says, I just received from my father, is that good for a Catholic faith?
I don't think right now it's a very good message to receive from the Pope.
Okay.
I'm receiving the developers and all of that.
You see my point?
Yeah.
If you want to do it
The Productivity Commission groups are meeting tomorrow and Wednesday.
The business group tomorrow, the labor group on Wednesday morning.
You can do a vote if you want to.
They're both meeting for the capital limits.
Some folks can drop by if you want to.
Shelton feels very strongly that you should do it.
Nobody else is prepared to do it.
Everybody feels stronger, but it's not bad.
We don't need them now.
What they have to do is simply to drop by and say hi there.
That's a great job you're doing.
The one significant thing, of course, is to really remember to turn your back on them.
I think I'd better do it because we're literally having to be together.
The one thing that you and John have to do
Now, if you have Schultz here, and you've got the same problems as Fischer, and you're the head of the other one, you won't have any more in this category.
You'll come in as a bull, and you're just going to eat.
But it's not like, you know, you might get an old plan, but you're not in this category.
But what you have to do is you've got to get Schultz in a room and get him to understand that you'll be constantly staring at Fischer when he's gone.
The world is bigger than their world, and therefore you can't see them all.
You know what I mean?
He loves to see everybody, but the church is going to have the same problem.
You know, he'll just be on the edge all the time, and he's the biggest in the world, and he's productive, and he's the biggest, and he's the biggest, and so forth.
And I'm not, I'm not complaining about this, and I'm not complaining about any of it, but I do know that the church is the nation's fault.
And, uh, the, uh, we'll just remember that.
And there's certain things that I don't really need to see, you know, for the city of Kansas to make quite a thing.
I understand.
I said, you don't want to meet with Porter New Year's with Griffin and Aaron.
Um, there's some reason to put them, you know, just follow through with meeting with Porter.
Oh, I understand.
I've got the time until we get back, and I'm going to be down in a while.
And I think the leadership we do after, you know, I actually managed to do it on the 2nd.
Our thinking on the pre-union, probably some realization plan, starts the 6th.
Turns out that they're going to take Thursday off and go to Fox's memorial service.
But you can't do it in the cell.
There'd be no chance.
So I prayed and I decided to do this.
I can't do it on the road.
So they offered me to put it in here.
They're not just better than they've done.
Of course, you know, just the electrical is pretty good.
The bad is that they have 30,000 errors in security.
That's what they have.
I'm a target inspector, so it depends upon what hundredth of a point.
Excuse me, John, suspicious of that.
That's right.
Although Colson never gets outposted, there's still something.
There's no way for Missouri to accept a goddamn human spirit or some secret spirit of some kind.
I said to him, I said to him, I said to him, I said to him, I said to him, I said to him,
He will.
He is.
He probably has.
Well, I think that's good.
Now, we've got the book on all the next levels, and we're moving each department out, moving the assistant secretaries and all these general counsels.
The only thing I would say here is that I would appreciate your...
You're trying to do your best to get a shot at it.
Yeah, you know, that kind of people.
It's a political fight.
Now, it would be a bit of managerial input.
I'm sure you've got the political input on something other than your own group.
I don't know enough about it either.
They'll be wrong half the time, too.
A few of those politicians, I mean, they've got an idea.
I guess I'm not going to get into those.
You all know what I'm looking for.
I've got a job.
I will speak to him.
Where should he be?
I'm sure he's up there.
He wants a job.
What is it?
Oh, I suppose I should ask.
I need to ask about Alex Miller.
He's not down to that level yet.
It won't be, it won't be necessarily a foul.
Fine.
Just so he's in control.
And he doesn't practice law.
Yeah.
That's a good statement on the line.
He would have probably accepted Attorney General.
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Now, about Ella, can I ask you, as a part of the commission, how about slip of the hand, for example, on the commission?
On the commission, I was chair of the commission.
That's where we're still on the commission and board.
The only reason we've got any, you want the important commissions and so forth.
CAB, it's more important to get that woman in there.
Right.
I got you.
I understand.
You're a black guy, you can't get out of the hospital.
There's a black spot.
And also it's very likely to go out.
I have no, I have no, it's a devil.
If he's got it, if he's got it, then hopefully it'll occur in Kevin's body.
It's a devil.
It's a devil.
It's a devil.
It's a devil.
We put it in the OED tree.
Yeah, it's pretty good, huh?
The computer is at least investing on that with the OED system.
You don't really need to glamorize out a truck anymore with that.
We've got like the yellow equipment, but you're cutting it down on that, which may bother you.
Well, you've got a wild card out here, I see.
No, man aren't strong in the grave, I see, frankly.
He's a hard person, having a woman on that makes a great deal of sense.
But on the man, I'll make it on Wood, the guy there, he's not looking for a job.
I know, I know that, but we're looking for him.
I mean, it would be good to have one damn good black and white man.
Uh, all right.
Uh, could he do anything?
I was like, who's that with the woman?
But why are we fixing her up?
Great, great, great.
David didn't take her down.
And you don't want to move collections, do you?
We'll get moving if you've got somebody that you want to swap in there.
He's perfectly good.
He doesn't come around knocking the door down and have his budget increased.
That's a tough thing.
John just needs to wipe it down.
He's managed to get that thing pretty well under control.
He's going to have trouble with integrity.
People want to keep it up.
Yeah.
So I think we might be able to leave him there for a while.
Well, the seat.
You know, Trudy had a deal with...
I told you about one of the bastards when I said about the black, don't make the suit to be the black seat.
I know.
But that might be it.
Make John Sheldon Cooper the bastard of us.
Yeah, you know, we were going to put Daryl A. in.
No.
He put him in the suite, but the vice, no.
Daryl, he said he wants the tough guy to leave.
It's all that stuff.
They're like, they might not draft that, but they're saying, hey, you see exactly what you're asking of them.
So then they're supposed to put the flag in our way.
I don't think that our region, because our region's a good friend, said it's there.
So who we got in Denmark?
That's another good question.
Denmark, we have to move a better program to us.
Philip Crowe.
We have to go there.
Yeah.
We're locked on that.
That was the deal with the old one down there.
That's good.
And that's why we have to vote.
But the reason we've got to keep down more in Ireland is because that's what Mulcahy is advising us to do.
Well, that's all right, but I wish you perfectly fine-tuned it.
Mulcahy won't say anything.
I wasn't thinking, frankly, to throw more out.
It's because I thought it would be useful in something else.
If it isn't because of more, it's because locate wants more of it.
For his purposes.