{"conversationCode":"382-005","tapeNumber":382,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-382-005","startDateTime":"1972-12-16T18:26:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-16T18:35:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Dec-1972","startTime":"1:26 PM","endDate":"16-Dec-1972","endTime":"1:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On December 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:26 pm to 1:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 382-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 382-5\n\nDate: December 16, 1972\nTime: 1:26 pm - 1:35 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Possible meeting with John D. Ehrlichman\n                  -Issues\n            -Cabinet dinner\n                  -Seating arrangements\n                  -Guest list\n                         -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n                         -Size\n                         -Possible additions\n\f                                              -23-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 382-5 (cont’d)\n\n                               -Dr. Edward E. David, Jr. [?]\n                               -Leonard Garment\n                               -Herbert G. Klein\n                          -Size\n                    -Seating arrangements\n\nButterfield left at 1:35 pm.","filename":["382-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"382-004","nextCode":"382-006","transcript":[{"start":73.89,"end":89.31,"text":"Let's go ahead and get that one."},{"start":89.33,"end":89.61,"text":"Are you ready?"},{"start":89.63,"end":90.13,"text":"Let's reach back to this."},{"start":90.15,"end":92.44,"text":"Well, they haven't had it in a long time."},{"start":92.68,"end":95.86,"text":"Well, that's my estimate of the comfort."},{"start":95.88,"end":98.12,"text":"It's really a very good match."},{"start":98.67,"end":102.05,"text":"But you could go up to about $121,000, right?"},{"start":102.07,"end":102.33,"text":"Yeah, I know."},{"start":132.47,"end":137.55,"text":"Bye."},{"start":159.69,"end":176.25,"text":"Well, figure out who else can do it."},{"start":182.66,"end":183.19,"text":"I don't want you to do it."},{"start":183.21,"end":183.57,"text":"Let's do it again."},{"start":187.41,"end":216.37,"text":"... ... ... ... ... ..."},{"start":228.86,"end":255.13,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":262.45,"end":292.07,"text":"All right."},{"start":299.68,"end":301.54,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":334.12,"end":352.78,"text":"Okay."},{"start":352.81,"end":352.9,"text":"Okay."},{"start":352.93,"end":353.02,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met to coordinate the administrative logistics of upcoming White House events. The discussion focused on scheduling potential meetings with John D. Ehrlichman and refining the guest list and seating arrangements for a Cabinet dinner. The two evaluated potential additions to the dinner, including H.R. Haldeman, Leonard Garment, and Herbert G. Klein, to ensure the appropriate size and composition for the gathering.","topics":["White House administration","Cabinet dinner","Scheduling","Staff management","Guest list"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:42:11.754Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-administration","cabinet-dinner","scheduling","staff-management","guest-list"],"audioDurationSec":372,"audioFiles":[{"file":"382-005.mp3","bytes":8931967,"durationSec":372.01,"bitrate":192078,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.213Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:30.462Z","transcriptGapSeconds":135,"transcriptGapShare":0.36,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/382-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/382-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/382/conversation-382-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}