{"conversationCode":"382-009","tapeNumber":382,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-382-009","startDateTime":"1972-12-16T20:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-16T20:28:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Dec-1972","startTime":"3:25 PM","endDate":"16-Dec-1972","endTime":"3:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On December 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:25 pm to 3:28 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 382-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 382-9\n\nDate: December 16, 1972\nTime: 3:25 pm - 3:28 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 34-99]","filename":["382-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"382-008","nextCode":"382-010","transcript":[{"start":0.15,"end":3.83,"text":"Oh, I'm in Syria."},{"start":3.85,"end":4.25,"text":"I'm living in Syria."},{"start":27.1,"end":45.94,"text":"What a great blocker he was."},{"start":46.08,"end":54.19,"text":"And he said, when you came in there, the harder it raised up against you, it was like hitting you by a sledgehammer."},{"start":57.46,"end":76.21,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":76.23,"end":76.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":77.2,"end":103.15,"text":"National Hockey League on NBC will start Friday night, December 29th, when the battle of division will begin at the Boston Roads."},{"start":103.17,"end":106.42,"text":"Friday night, December 29th, National Hockey League on NBC."},{"start":106.44,"end":106.62,"text":"16 yards."},{"start":106.64,"end":107.04,"text":"Give it to Lawrence."},{"start":108.2,"end":121.39,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":121.41,"end":121.52,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":121.53,"end":121.64,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":135.38,"end":161.82,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":163.18,"end":163.38,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":165.41,"end":173.92,"text":"This would be something that Moore's got to 1,000 yards to beat."},{"start":173.94,"end":179.02,"text":"We're going all the way to the front."},{"start":179.04,"end":179.62,"text":"Here's one game today."},{"start":179.64,"end":189.48,"text":"But the last game of the regular season, I don't think it's going to be because they have to be thinking of the playoff."},{"start":189.5,"end":189.66,"text":"Timeout."},{"start":189.68,"end":190.48,"text":"Two-minute warning given for this score."},{"start":190.5,"end":191.06,"text":"Miami 16, Baltimore nothing."},{"start":191.08,"end":191.28,"text":"All right."},{"start":194.31,"end":196.91,"text":"I'll be right back."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief, informal meeting that focused primarily on casual conversation rather than official government business. The dialogue centered on personal commentary regarding professional football and hockey broadcasts occurring that day. No policy decisions or administrative actions were initiated during this exchange.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","Professional Sports","National Football League","National Hockey League","Informal Conversation"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:42:36.054Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","professional-sports","national-football-league","national-hockey-league","informal-conversation"],"audioDurationSec":204,"audioFiles":[{"file":"382-009.mp3","bytes":4910781,"durationSec":204.47,"bitrate":192140,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.212Z","transcriptGapSeconds":90,"transcriptGapShare":0.44,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/382-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/382-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/382/conversation-382-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}