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I don't know.

construction work, water, sun, oil and all that stuff.

which is, uh, they have to update air conditioning, electrical, relocate a CO2 system, a silo system, fire protection system, stuff like that.

This is starting to be encrypted.

I don't know, we have to figure that out.

In other words, 28,000 is the bowling alley cost in addition to 28,000.

Is that right?

The bowling alley people were running the bowling alley.

That's only $3400.

All right.

No, no, no, no.

You can do it, actually, because there's a bowling alley in the locker room.

In the locker facility.

All right, bowling alley company can go into the bowling alley, and your friends can go into the locker facility.

Locker facility.

Right.

And here's the locker facility, which is what it's on right now.

Well, I don't know what we're doing right now.

We're going through a hell of a lot of stuff.

There's some follow-up to be done.

It might be better to wait until around Monday, or when do we start doing some of that?

Yeah, well, to start, what we're on here

and the assumption is, and he has some on his website, and he's very happy to be doing this, and probably will be a non-tech agency, but there's a possibility, even though his approach to the agency is not acceptable, he might come back and say, well, I won't take it anyway.

If he does, they can respect him.

I did so much.

Now they're looking for places where it's more exciting.

And personnel also.

That's what we haven't done.

a lot smarter than you give her credit for being.

And she had thought the whole thing over, and she came back with a fish that was pretty efficient.

So I didn't do what I do, which is probably what I determined I shouldn't have to.

She looked at the organization chart, and she said, I just discovered something.

I discovered that you and John Rosen, in case it's in your heart, you can count on us to beat them.

And I asked Boston, she said, I'm not sure about that.

And I realized that, maybe for a comfort,

She said, if you're after the shots, I will give it to you.

And she said, what I would suggest you do is do it now.

If you understand, do it with just means nothing.

And then we'll pull out of the play line.

I said, you can't do that.

And she said, well, I think you can.

I said, well, let's play the game.

We're going to try to do it.

We're going to make it right.

There was a need for a cut.

Well, frankly, for the first time, I was carrying my own spell.

Our whole thing didn't work and didn't serve any purpose for any of them really.

We had to put them all on the shelf.

That's given them three different purposes.

This is done for a really different reason.

This is done for the positive reason of our business.

Thank you.

And then you can say, obviously, if you're seeing more of that asset, you can do that.

And then just query it.

And you then get it.

an office where the staff is.

So if you put over there.

All right.

We're going to have to give her some staff.

She's going to have to do it.

Right down on the edge with the 50% staff.

But he doesn't count.

I'm not counting the staff.

The NSC is serving the staff.

I'll find a way to make it one way or the other.

We're doing that.

I think there's a way around it.

Now, there's some argument that we're going to do that, but we're doing it right away, because there is a big woman's gathering right now in Houston that's going to apply to the ground level in the gathering.

I don't know if it's close, but there aren't high-level posts.

And we buried it out in the water.

We've got to do that.

We've got to find out how to do that.

We've got to do that.

Alright, fine.

I don't know what you did with her.

You got a lot of her out.

I thought you had a big scenario the next day.

I'm going to check with you on all of her favorites.

What's going on today?

I have to leave.

Okay, come on, let's go ahead.

See you tomorrow.

Okay, see you later.

I heard something running.

Do you feel like we're going to need to put a fire or something?

No.

I'm showing this concert to the president.

We've got to have money.

How long do we need?

Okay.

Okay, I'll be over in a few minutes.

Last week I said she uh, sorry I won't lift my hand, last week I said she uh, knows our friends in Dallas.

She uh, doesn't know where she is, but she's in Dallas, where she's doing everything.

You know, she checks us for, like, certain things.

Look, if you did text us a page, we're going to text you back.

I hate you.

Think about that.

Don't do anything.

Good idea.

Go to the rank.

Got it?

Okay.

Then have Ron here, one of the boys, get out and listen to what I've done for several times.

Women have told my solution.

Most women have ever held my solution.

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Probably better corporate than a builder.

Good job.

That's not day one.

Yeah, it's not.

Yeah, I think so too.

Yeah.

The only woman reporter on the network seems to be on our side.

Okay.

You can't plan your White House, you know, schedule a lot of festive events all over the country.

I'm sure you do that through a lot of events.

You know, you work on everything.

The real problem, at some time, I guess, is impossible.

I'm afraid it was reported, because she does so much of it.

She will not do it unless you let her.

That's the problem.

No, she doesn't care about it.

She doesn't.

She said it and you had it.

And then she did it for a while.

And then you decided not to do it.

Very important goal.

I just almost broke my hand.

He's really a very stupid man.

He's a stupid man.

I don't know.

To get on the record, he asked for, I don't know, maybe radio calls.

That's impossible.

I can't imagine that.

I'm not sure we're already done.

Now I'm going to be worried about one of those little ears.

We'll be starting to try to pull it down and be able to set it up.

OK, now I'll be worried.

We never have another thing in the cabin.

But since we're going to get the cabin, a different kind of space anyway.

She will just, she will really be a counselor to the president.

She'll come rattling down things, you know, that she has something to do with.

We will want to have her, we'll have her work with us.

We'll have her talk to me.

Right.

Don't you agree?

No, I'll change the coffee too.

I've got to have dinner tonight.

I don't have coffee.

Doesn't that make sense?

Yep.

I think that's right up there where we belong.

Listen here, socially, everything out of the way.

That's right.

Enter the range gender of the white ass man.

All right, let's go to the call.

That's good.

And give it a second.

It does not mention the field address.

M-I-A.

Don't mention that.

I'll give it a second.

I'll give her recruitment of women.

We haven't talked him out of it.

We've got to get him out of it.

What do we have to give her anything?

I think we don't stay with special assignments.

I think we ought to say working directly with the president and the other members of the cabinet on the whole range of policies.

uh, including but not limited to policy matters.

Women are particularly, are, are concerned, you know, why, etc.

Find out that, including but not limited to those areas of particular interest to women.

And the role of women in government.

It's basically not nearly this.

It's only a whining walk.

You know what I mean?

It's a case of a very, very few women that are really concerned about this thing.

I mean, most of them don't want to work in the goddamn government.

It's basically a struggle.

There's a few that ask for help, and a few of them seem to think, well, a lot of them seem to think it's a good idea, and they don't care.

That's right.

Well, that's the right place for it.

That's a believable kind of position.

That's where they're going.

Whiskers, birds, flies.

They aren't quite in the air.

Come on, everybody else.

We've got a skeleton.

I can't understand why Bill doesn't think that.

He'll be a big man in the U.N. before he goes back.

She can move into any meeting at all, by the way.

It gives her a blank check.

Well, I checked her role.

She likes it.

Yeah, except she'll use it better than things.

And she can move on into the country as a spokesman.

Why didn't she want to try to visit?

You really do have to have someone on the table in order for you to go there.

The key to the erection is to give her the stroke to move with the steps as here.

Use her that way rather than building a path by herself.

Also, be comfortable with her.

Make her be around her any more than you want her to be.

Take a knee.

She's been gone for a few weeks, but time has never come of the day.

I don't know if her husband can hear her coming in.

I don't want any cabinet members in my table.

I don't want to say much, but I'm not going to make any excuses.

Mm-hmm.

Pushing is part of presenting a date for a police visit.

I'm going to cut it over.

He's coming here.

He's going to come over here.

I'm trying to do a brief visit in January.

I have to inaugurate after the inauguration.

I don't give a goddamn what I'm going to do.

I'm going to be pushing for a schedule in one week for the 29th.

I'm not going to wait for the 1st or 2nd.

I'm going to do it after the message is in.

All right, fine.

All this phishing and the campaign, you know, funds and everything.

It's now into the report that he's going to take, you know.

And he's here because of the surplus.

I know.

He's got a $3 million surplus.

Is he going to talk to people now?

No.

He hasn't told anybody that except me.

He swore he had heard of God.

What's he got?

What's he going to do?

He doesn't know.

He's got one of them.

He wants to trade.

He's got a whole series of calls for everyone.

Well, I think we should pay off the vets for the National Committee, though.

No, sir.

He has eight alternatives.

Return it to the Ventriloquist.

That's a problem, because then you have, you know, how do you get back to the guy who gave you $10?

That is to carry it to 74 and spend with them.

Carry it to 76 and spend with them.

Turn it over to the Republican National Grant Committee.

The other is just kind of interesting.

It's to establish a GOP endowment fund.

Then put it in an endowment fund that provides income.

Here's the income for one of the purposes in which you're interested in such as recruiting good candidates.

transfer in december

He says there are some contingent liabilities tax on some of the stocks that we sold.

And he said there may be a few contributors that would want to give refunds to him if they give us too much, you know, position, which I'm sort of going to follow through on and see if it's a good day or something.

I just want to go back to what I talked about a few times.

I don't want to use up very much.

Maybe something should be built with it.

Oh, yes.

Is it just to start with something else?

Really?

What are you talking about there?

I think what you're saying, you put it to the Nixon Foundation, too.

Right.

Is it to start with something to the foundation?

What are you talking about there?

Is it to the Nixon Foundation?

Huh?

That's right.

What they did is wrong with that.

No.

Is that the foundation's tax deductible.

These people gave them money after that.

Right.

Yeah.

Well, we don't think about it, Bob.

That's a good one to think about.

Little Warren.

How do you know that?

He's got a million, about a half a million to a million commitments that, like, didn't get picked up for 74.

He doesn't want to pick that up now.

There's something, you know, where something gave $102 million.

We don't get to put it all on the 74 campaign.

No.

Yeah.

I don't think he'll ever pick one, but we know where the campaign's going to be.

That might be an idea.

If they put one division.

They said that Dominic and Wilson met with both of them and told him that money was no problem in any case that they know, either as a company or a challenge.

They were aware.

Nobody asked for it.

Some asked, but those who asked got what they said they needed.

And in the case specifically of the common senator to the boss, there was absolutely no money problem.

Well, I know some of it, but we didn't, you know, we dried up the lines, you know, in the back.

These are excuses.

There's nothing to shoot on out there.

But, like, a lot of people screw this up.

All right.

Why do we can't?

Why do you mean?

Incidentally, first round, I'm really surprised that he was playing his own selfish line.

But now let's remember, let's just be realistic this time.

Some of these people, they suck around and they get all the credit.

The other thing he's really excited about is that, what is it?

You've got 30 people, 28, who gave $250,000 or more.

You don't have a bunch.

But of those, 15 or more, 15 never gave anything.

You've got over a quarter of a million bucks.

Why doesn't he cut everybody back for a quarter of a million, frankly, and give it back?

You've got 68 people who gave him $100,000, $250,000, $34,000.

That's, when you're talking to him, that's good for money.

You know, the wonderful hat on that, because that's something you've talked about.

I will.

Well, you just, he wasn't like this.

Those aren't all, more didn't get credit for all that.

Of course, it gets some of it.

I don't, not me and all that, but it's still, more gets some of it.

I wonder if you could hold this decision for a very long time.

I think putting out the candidates just doesn't make sense.

I think the candidates, that conviction, 1970, we screwed that up beyond belief when we got that done.

I think what you should tell them is that we should have put it in there, you know.

Yeah.

And had to say, send us a sign to hold for six months.

Just, yeah.

And don't let anybody know, because then they'll tell us, and then we call it an action, because then you won't be after it.

You may have to tell them.

But what he can do, he can ride for a company.

See, I think you have to in the January report.

Yeah.

But what he can do is say it's an employee not fund, and we have a lot of campaign liabilities, and he had this problem in 68, long after the campaign bills came, and I will not release the funds because of that.

I don't think the foundation will work, if that's a good idea.

I think we have to put a good fundraiser on the foundation to get the money for it.

But I was wondering if you couldn't put a...

I just forgot to bring the dollars I need to build it up.

I don't know if we have to build a boat or something like that.

That was raised in that town.

It was actually weighing on or something.

Well, it was just something that had that connotation to it, frankly.

Well, yes, yes, and our center, you might want to go down there and listen.

Listen?

Yeah.

Well, there's a library.

A library, yes, and our center.

You see what I mean?

Sure.

You can definitely have money in my favor.

You can just have a hell of a lot, a hell of a fine library or something, or a reading room, or something.

You can do better than that.

You can give me a dollar a minute.

A minute, all right.

I heard it.

I'm trying to find Ann.

That's the problem.

Why can't you find her?

I just... You can't find her, Chief.

The board can't find her.

Oh, okay.

Because the spark is... Yeah, sure.

And you gotta do that at 430.

You're close.

Yeah, very close.

But her situation, she's, uh... She'll take it.

Why the hell don't we do it without asking her?

It is understood that I have a better president to appoint Ann Armstrong, counselor to the president, counselor to the president, as a member of this cabinet.

Appoint Ann Armstrong to the cabinet as counselor to the president.

Sheriff, she will be working with the president and the other members of the cabinet on the whole range of policy matters.

The whole range of policy matters.

Including, of course, but not limited to,

uh, those areas of particular interest to women.

That's all there is.

I'm not going to be a political woman.

You can also say that you will also have to do some of these things.

and she will undertake she will she will pick up she will undertake some of the assignments

Well, no.

Had that in recent times.

Yeah, before that was Moynihan.

Harlow was Moynihan.

Thank you, Judy.

Sample by Harlow.

Moynihan.

Yeah.

And Goh.

Sample by Harlow.

Moynihan.

And Burns.

And Arthur Burns.

Arthur Burns.

Yeah.

She'll have a special assignment.

She'll have to shut up.

She's a general boss.

She will be in, uh, she'll office in the White House.

Yeah, offices in the EOB.

Offices in the EOB.

Well, they're all in Texas.

Right.

Forget it is.

Fine, go to the Chronicles.

Go to the Chronicles.

Go to the... Let me tell you what.

Go to the Chronicles.

Go to the $2 papers.

And go to the Hearst papers.

Or the Hearst papers.

You remember the whole

coverage of my, of their election.

They were proud of us as clients down there.

They had one of their other papers.

Instead of going to this one, they moved on to this wire and go right to the White House.

Right now, it's fine.

It's fine.

Don't go around.

Now, what you could do with the Texas Pickers is say this story apparently has gotten out and we wanted you to have it because it was a Texas important time.

Yeah.

If you understand that the Washington Star may have the story.

They want to get it so you can have it in your son's edition.

I don't want to give the post a chance.

Just fill it with the star.

We'll do the Texas papers.

Yeah, fill it with the star and confirm with the Texas papers.

Just say the star got it, we don't know how they got it, and confirm.

Screw it.

The Texas papers are going to like it already.

I just like it.

You see, Bob, one of the problems of leaving the star, which, of course, Ron is most of that.

You can confirm it if they call in.

They didn't ask him a question.

No, they didn't ask him a question.

I saw one of the... Oh, it's all right.

It's all right.

Well, if you work on it.

It was, I don't know, a lot better than at the beginning.

I remember he was in such a, by the time we got it toned down into a proper format, it would have been very bad for him to go on a defensive belligerent.

I was taken.

I was misused.

I'm sorry.

I got it.

He did well, but I can give you the point.

Just bring yourself to stand up here.

One crazy paragraph.

I know.

Well, did you understand?

He doesn't.

Did you ever think of it?

But he wasn't good with it.

Well, I used every technique I could with it.

You know, last night, this morning, I got this morning before the play.

See how good you sound every night.

You just take this paragraph and punch it out.

This is the way you're sounding.

That'll be carried across the country, across the world.

You did a good job.

You got the points across.

You got to it.

So he really made the point that I made about the, rather than a shirt, he said, after the longest war, we don't want a shirt.

He made every point that you would.

He did it.

He's a spy.

He said it.

He said it a lot.

I mean, well, he said it, but, you know, I don't know.

But I don't get it.

It's coming across.

Okay.

We'll do it.

Have fun.

Okay.

How many more minutes do we got before we close?

No, I should be behind now.

No, I was thinking of another story.

We get another one later.

Get it so long.

Okay.

I'm going to go on and enjoy what we've always been meant to do.

It's my favorite.

What about the other?

Invite her tonight if she can come.

What about your other events down next week that I go to?

I go to the church tomorrow.

What do I do Monday and Tuesday?

Monday, you have, you have nothing except for stands on the point of Monday morning.

There are a couple other things you ought to do.

Brother's got you to sleep.

Are you leaving?

No.

He's staying.

But that will know where you are on, you know, whatever the question.

And Johnson, you've got to sleep Monday and Sunday.

You've got to sleep on Tuesday and the week before that.

What is it?

Is it a lack of balance or what?

Well, I think it's a determination that what he thinks is right.

Right.

And if they're always going to do it, no matter what.

Right.

You know, it's going to land them first.

I read Buchanan's analysis.

It was something today.

Oh, it was like, yeah, which is what I heard.

You know, the idea that, well, the reason wasn't anything to do with it.

What is it?

That's right.

We had that money.

But I said, for Christ's sake, we've got to get it wrong.

I'm posting a whole list of things that none of us have thought to do before.

That is the first that we've ever heard of.

If you check to see how many changes there was to the PR and A in 1904, how many changes did FDR make in 1934?

How many did we make this year?

How many did Eisenhower make in 1950?

Well, there is a story, you see.

They got it.

I can't do the research.

And I went through that line.

I went through the whole line.

Of course, the other line.

I said, get off the back again.

Roger, you're only four years in.

Get off the back again.

It's real that this is the tip of the iceberg.

What's happening in the casket is only the tip of the iceberg.

The real change is what's happening in the power.

We've done that in labor, and we've done that in mortgages.

I'm getting that around a few other places.

One of them, you've undercut a client, you've undercut three others.

You see what I mean?

It's a... We've got some of that through this time period going on.

It isn't to the interest of the president and the chief that what we are doing is being done.

Or I suppose to.

But we're also, we're getting very strong stories on the bus stop.

And you get one story in busting out the department.

And you get a series of stories as you put new people in.

See, a lot of those, we're just starting to move on.

the clean-out in the loader department, the clean-out in the air quality department, the clean-out in the safety department, which we've got from the start.

There's plenty more to come there, because we're a little ambassadorship now, and all of that needs to start right now.

The agency says, they've got the reorganization story, and it's, you know, I would like to do this.

It'd be a small thing, but I'd get an arm from it.

It would be very much...

Mine, it was very, very long, too, because I liked it, liked her so much.

I was just changing Mrs. Simon that I've got sitting on one side, put her by somebody else, and put an orange phone by me.

She won't see what I mean.

I've got to keep Mrs. Brennan by me.

Mrs. Brennan doesn't need her for a reason.

I've got to be sure that for the first time in a while, she's going to be sitting by her son.

She's not my son, but she doesn't feel that way.

There's a remarkable woman she is.

They're being snobbish now, but they are because of their education.

They can't help but sound that way.

They're snobbish in a very different way from the intellectual elite.

The intellectual elite deliberately intend to be snobbish.

Our people do not intend to be, but they do sound that way because basically, I mean, we're frankly the suburbanites and the rest, and you know how it is.

God damn it, I gotta...

I've got a coke burner in my backyard and my neighbor doesn't have one.

That's the way we are in this country.

Okay, back again and again.

I'm going closer.

Okay.

had never been in the White House before for the Republicans to get them in.

They didn't have any money to shoot, but that's what the people are.

They were here because they supported Congress.

That's right, Governor.

And I don't know whether you can find them, but they're red, white, blue, and they're receiving money.

That's what I'm saying.

You and I were sitting back in the white dress, in the red dress, and they were constantly, they were red, white, blue in the procession.

I don't know that he will.

I know they've got straws in there and they're baiting the cutie, but they're never going to let him.

Never, never, never.

They can't.

What do we think of this election?

Get that horse?

Get it prepared?

One of the several stories pointed out, and very popular, that there weren't really any presidential candidates around.

They said that it was a person who wanted to get elected, and neither of them got elected.

The person had nothing to hide, really.

Then, uh, Tuesday,

They don't feel bad.

Most of them don't.

Most everybody we're letting out are being let out.

Yes, sir.

The sticky ones, the ones that aren't, are the ones that aren't serviced.

The ones that aren't being let out are the ones that aren't serviced.

But then we've got a great bunch of babies that have been up on this.

I'm not going to do it at my table.

I said, no, sir.

No, sir.

You're going to do it at my table.

I said, no, sir.

I said,

Well, no.

These are all people that were in the Young Builders, that work in the Young Builders for the President's operation.

Good.

Now, the service, and there will be some people in the White House staff, but they don't do that.

The people that work with the service, do you think I should stay out of it to shake hands with the Young Builders?

No.

I don't think so.

If you're going to do a handshake, what I'm going to do is you go right out there and shake hands with them or the other people that are in front of you.

I'll do that.

No, you're used to it.

I won't have to stand around and shake hands.

This is one time.

It would be nice not to have to stand around.

Yeah, because I won't have to stand around with you.

That's not a bad idea.

Good.

top people voters will be at the surrogate's reception.

These are the larger people that work around here.

It all fits in.

And that's, you might want to say that out there.

Yeah.

So that people know who all those people are.

They'll be joining us after dinner.

For the entertainment to see.

You know, it was a great thing that you did.

You know, it really came to me.

Well, she's the biggest celebrity of your life.

She really is.

I know her.

She's because of that goddamn personality.

In fact, they both are.

You know, when Trish and I, they all want to see her.

And it's a dead-end play.

That's the way.

You may go to the right.

Thanks, man.

Goddamn.

It's, uh, physical, and, uh, yeah, I'm sure.

That's two, you know that?

I thought there was a diplomatic case I might just go by.

So, yeah, that's a four o'clock, yeah.

It may be great, okay, that you're worried.

Yeah, but I, yeah, don't get into shaking hands with me.

You could just be vomiting, I'd say, that's a nice thing.

Oh, I would, too.

Okay.

All right.

How do you feel about that?

The way that you know that we are getting a hold of the content, but we had more of a toll than we did in 1968 by about 90%.

We didn't have any in 1968.

We didn't have any.

We showed people.

We had people, you know, these nice guys, well, some were a campaign advancement.

They didn't know.

They were asking for hot rock about people that are dead.

I don't know who it is, or something, or writing.

By the way, when we were in 20 and 10, if you remember, they would then come in and introduce the assistant secretary, or say, I want to submit such and such, and then we would do our opinion, or check them, but that's about it.

We'd turn them, and she'd say, you know, you're that guy, now you go find this staff.

And we'd give them some ideas of names, and we tried to make them check through Eric Lennon, because, you know, poor Eric Lennon.

I know there's been Eric Lennon throughout.

Now, he walks in and he's doing half the job now with the old secretary.

He goes in and says, here are the people who want to leave your department.

Would you please get them out of here before the new secretary comes in?

Pretty good idea.

Okay, we've got to get rid of these people.

I don't know if they're going to come in still instead of chair down.

But then a new guy comes in and announces, are there people for your team?

Obviously, if they have an overriding objection, that's considered a good thing.

I suppose the ones that I am most concerned about are those that we are letting go back to get support from.

And I guess we're not getting service too hard.

We're concerned about those that there are some that we are in this scenario.

We have to let it go because it can come and work you out for varying reasons.

that his wife busted her ass for the campaign.

She organized the captain, the sub-captain, the staff, the wives.

What are we going to do from today?

We're going to try to get him into commission this morning.

The thing we've got to recognize is most of these people are not here because they want to be in government.

They're here because someone's got to come in and do it.

You're not doing them any favors by keeping them in.

I did add those five names.

Those were what you should have had.

We didn't have Cole on there.

We could have bent him out.

Cole's been in all those rooms and things.

He's gotten his play.

And he's gotten a very big play out of it.

Right on that thing last night, he got a play that served a couple of overs with a quick fire to reception, which builds him up.

Just in that hour, he's upping that up.

I'll tell you, I'm impressed as hell with Bernie, too.

Right, he's a hiker.

Hiker.

He asked me, by the way, he says, I've never met him, by the way, sir.

How old is he, sir?

He looks like a gorilla out of a zoo.

I hope he is.

He really does.

He's one of the ugliest men I've ever seen in my life.

His father's out here.

It was.

It seems to me he's uglier than his father.

I don't know where his father is.

I don't know what they are.

They're lebanese.

He's got an apple.

The other apple he got him.

A lot of personality.

He's a much nicer guy, of course, in the outgoing sense.

He's got more, he won't, he'll get, he'll be a determinist person, but he'll be a little bit less brutal about it.

And he understands the game, he knows exactly what we're talking about.

You know, he's worked on that letter for years.

You know, it was a little bit more than that.

and what we're trying to do, why we're trying to do it.

He's totally realistic about it.

He knows what's got to be done.

He understands that he's, in a sense, in an automatic adversary role in White House now because he's trying to push one kind of interest for one purpose, where the policy people are pushing other attempts for other reasons.

So it's critical for example...

That's the difference.

First of all, as Chuck will be the first one to tell you, Balzano didn't screw anything up in Michigan.

Balzano did exactly what Chuck Colson told him to do.

And Chuck said that to John 10 times.

He said, look, if you want to blame someone, if you want to screw something up in Michigan, I did.

I told Balzano what to do.

He did what I told him to do.

I mean, if that was screwing up Michigan, then I did it, not Guy.

And he said, and Chuck puts it very rightly, he says, and I don't mind at all taking the one foot out and carrying the stick.

Correct.

And we did it because we played the busting issue.

Correct.

John was, that was what he said when he landed.

He skirted him up.

He skirted him up at a time, remember, when Michigan was getting very close.

He ain't shaking.

Six points.

And then it spread again to Colson.

The reason was that Colson played that game.

I don't even know why Colson did it.

that it's not an issue anymore.

Remember?

I know.

And Bobby Herton told us it wasn't an issue.

Remember Bobby said, don't mention it, or it's all right if you mention it.

Don't mention it later on.

Bobby Herton was wrong.

Absolutely.

I'm sure that they're not always wrong around here.

We've got to try and get at them.

I mean, I was on it.

Sure, I was on it a little bit.

I'm sure he was, you know, he was just kind of religious and self-educated and a great guy that, uh,

You see, John's theory is that there is a horizon on earth penetration.

Do well.

I didn't say it, but do well.

That's what comes in the end.

They'll give us marks for what we did.

We haven't been efficient, did well with a number of people.

We got no marks for nothing.

Now this time, we're going to do as well as we can, but we're going to broker the shit out of everyone.

We've just got to do it.

Give John enough good work that he doesn't get fouled and cut.

That's what I'm saying.

We've got to do both of them.

I know.

If we don't do well, they'll really tear us through it.

I know.

So it's a cynic one.

We've got to do well first.

Then after that, we've got to be sure.

It's like working with a bench.

Frustrating.

He was one of the most frustrating men in the world.

How we ever did as well as we did.

60,000, I don't know.

And there were hundreds of things that I realized because of the 60s.

I remember that.

But I knew Bob never did it.

Never, never, never did it.

He was a total mess.

Now, of course, many of you today say, well, he was a work friend of Don's office.

He didn't play at all.

He was the chairman.

Anyway, whatever the case may be.

Jeff Bob Finch, around here, did us a lot of good.

In the sense that Bob and Moran went around the country in his own way.

He looked good in the company.

Klein is another example.

Klein is a total disaster as a manager.

You just can't hardly stand having him around.

You don't understand who he is.

He's a superb public figure.

And that's really, even though Klein probably, I know he's close to me.

If there is a way to get CPS, if they are open, Colson will get in at the CPS.

And Klein will take them.

Sure as hell, sir.

The CPS need them.

You're good with the CPS, you're good with the Klein, you're good with the rest.

That's one word.

We'll get with you all the way around.

Make every part to that which stands well off of it.

We can't.

We don't want to fight CPS forever.

The pearls was different.

I'll fight them forever.

Forever.

At times, you can't fight forever.

At times, it's better.

But folks can fight because they don't matter at the one time.

Well, they don't matter a hell of a lot to Congress and the Senate.

That's right.

But they don't matter to the country.

CBS matters to the country, which is why we can't just fight.

That doesn't matter.

Not as much as it used to.

Not as much as CBS.

Much more than the folks.

CBS picks off what's supposed to go on.

And it particularly affects, the post particularly affects Congress from the Senate.

That's why the new summary must continue to go out.

One of the best that we've done is to get that out there.

The post is going to build up.

I understand now.

The Senate has already sent it.

It says Congress from now on are calling for it.

We're going to get it earlier in the morning.

They have to finish it at the start.

Thank you for listening.

Thank you.

The weird thing is that sometimes you have to press your read the post, and you've got to make sure it goes out in public.

That's everything.

I would just say, one thing, our own movement is very prepared.

We're very prepared.

We can't say, look, we're not going to watch it now.

And we all know that everybody's going to watch it.

And if you tilt it all, try to find some good young people or try to find, you know what I mean?

We don't need it.

But the point is, put out the positive where you can.

You're not supposed to.

A positive story is not effective.

You're a positive reaction.

That's a very good thing, too, when you see those things that are in from obscure papers that you don't see at all.

Yeah.

I have a feeling

through Christmas, which is the following Monday.

I would hope, I would hope really, almost a million years, except for what I get in the way on the writing team, and I'll do my best to get on with my life.

It's like, when you're talking to Sasquatch, I don't know exactly, you do a thousand PRs, but now you find a word, really easy.

that isn't just $1,500.

I mean, I don't want them to think that.

I just don't want to see one word with $1,500.

I want them to really think that it was tight.

All right.

Agreed.

It's time to get away from here.

You know, I was thinking that a person who could be sitting here just looking at that.

The end of the lane got to, you know, but it's not a waste of time.

You know, the transition.

But I haven't done anything.

That's been a way of taking off slow down.

Yeah.

No, but I meant the translation in the sense of what we've been accomplished for years.

How we've been able to accomplish it.

How we can turn this government around.

The ability to do it.

I mean, we had to.

I had too much of a service today.

One was special.

I wasn't sure.

I wanted to raise it.

Uh...

To this credit, Weinberg said, cut it out.

He said, well, you've got to put it in.

But my point is, you see, it's that kind of a prevalent decision.

It's that kind of decision that we ourselves, like in the Defense Department,

one of the communities of the richest, and although Clements will do for Tucker, of course, younger, Jimmy, for spending more than any other person, he'll do tough as hell with regard to getting rid of the duplication in the name of R&D, duplication of the Air Force, and the rest.

And Haig will fight it like a tiger.

That's one of the problems with Haig.

He's used it in the traditional sense.

And that is one of the reasons why he's going to scare the shit out of the CIA.

Because the questioner's got the message, too, that I'm not able to just be reducing the cost of EIA and all those other people.

I'm sure that's what they're going to do.

They've got to have those three people.

I really don't understand it.

It's getting to the goddamn Washington.

In fact, it'll set the hell out of the CIA out there, and then that great paper out there will fill it with the round hole.

Do you think the questioner will do that?

They are going to be out in the state now.

Did he call?

Yeah.

So then we will settle that.

Stennis also reported that he had a very good meeting with Richardson and said, and said, Carlson, you know, he was better than I thought.

That reporter's husband.

Yeah, I believe he reported that to Stennis.

Well, that's, that's Stennis.

Carlson's husband is with the NRC.

Yeah.

Does he know anything about her?

How did he ask him that?

He knows him.

That's right, shit.

But anyway, Thomas, he is reading.

This idea, or I guess I'm the best that I've done, that I'm really going to make him sort of an ambassador for that piece of territory.

But how do you take it?

Because we see their aims.

That's what I'm asking.

But I don't mean to tell them that you would have talked to both Mary and Stuart Jackson and say, we're both going to talk about specific things.

I agree with Trevor.

I don't know if that's what Stuart wanted to talk about.

But they're all working on establishing all that.

But you would have to look at it from a broader perspective.

I do not think that I'll have any resistance.

It gets me bent for the election.

You said it all.

I don't know.

You are the one.

I think you do well, but you're not sure.

I wouldn't want him to

.

There's so many that want to talk or have things to say or say this is the Christmas season and I wanted to join you together now.

We're ever grateful for your support.

Remember the past and look forward to the future.

All right.

You checked her office to see what her schedule was?

Did they know what she was gonna do?

I'm excited.

Yeah, I think that's what I'm excited about.

No sir, I do not.

I have no inhibition of life at all.

None.

Mr. Ed now, Harry Truman or whoever it was had one over in the west basement.

Put one over here, put one over there.

I think we would have had trouble with the pool.

This thing.

I have no problem with it at all.

I'll get in, see if we can work that in.

Uh, don't say nothing.

Good for you.

Hello?

and have the operator kind of track you down.

The reason being that we talked over what we talked about yesterday.

The president thinks that the consular concept is a superb idea.

And we all agree that that was the real coup.

That accomplishes everything we're after.

Oh, yeah.

Yes, Steve.

Oh, sure.

I mean, that would be the whole point.

And what he wanted to do

Well, the way we're putting it in the week, and this is not an announcement,

that the star will announce in advance and then we'll confirm it later.

But saying that the president is appointing Mrs. Ann Armstrong as a member of his cabinet, to his cabinet, as a consular of the president, that Mrs. Armstrong will be working with the president and the other members of the cabinet on a whole range of policy matters, including but not limited to those areas of particular interest for women.

And we'll be dealing with the kinds of matters that Bob Baines and Don Rumsfeld most recently have been handling as counselors for the president.

And in the past were handled by the other counselors, Pat Boynton and Bryce Harlow, and before that after Burns.

That will go up often.

And without getting into any specifics at this point, then we'll go back on it and set it up not as a noisy jail at home as later on.

...for some time and talked with you about it when you came in to see him that day when you had the appointment with him.

And both of you discussed the specifics and so forth, and both of you thought it would be an outstanding idea.

And we're, of course, delighted that this concept for the president's

recognition of your role and contribution and so forth, and that you're hoping that you can continue to make a contribution in this kind of a direction.

Then, the reason it hasn't been announced was that you were working out the details with your family.

The family problem of working out ways that you could be away from home enough to handle this.

It's been worked out for us to believe that a part of the time you can handle some parts of the job by telephone from your home in Texas.

And as I said, you'll be spending the majority of your time here in Washington and so on.

And I think that's fine.

You ought to work out some kind of a thing with an apartment here or something.

So you have a base here.

And now, this broke fast because of a lot of other things that are going into place next week.

And it was important to try and cover this before.

Incidentally, we worked that off as well.

That's Tuesday business.

Yeah, that was next time.

So that would go about now.

The next point is that as the newest member of the president's cabinet, you could be in the president's cabinet here tonight.

Can we do it?

I know it's a tough thing to ask you to do at this point, but don't worry about getting your hair done and all that stuff.

You'll be great.

Yeah, we'll get you tested at the president.

Yeah.

I didn't want to say it, but she's so stirred up now.

She didn't even want to come with him.

Don't get her disturbed about that now.

When she gets there, I'll talk to you.

A couple things on the dinner tonight.

On the president's table.

...putting an armstrong in the front of the right.

... ... ... ... ... ...

Another car picked up Mrs. Armstrong at 7.30 at 1.5 at the main entrance to the main bar.

The president and Mrs. Manson were shaking hands with the young boaters on their way in.

The president came right out of dinner and received them in the hall while the other guests went to the parlors for coffee.

Dinner and guests went to the parlors for coffee.

Okay.

She, uh, the other thing she said was, can I be 10 or 15 minutes late?

So, yeah, that's, so that's, you know.

It's about six, seven, eight.

That's for sure.

I agree.

I'm going to put her on top of the whole thing instead.