On December 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Arthur Krock, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John A. Scali, Manolo Sanchez, John D. Ehrlichman, unknown person(s), White House operator, and George P. Shultz met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:29 pm to 6:01 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 383-006 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding AidConversation No. 383-6
Date: December 14, 1972
Time: 3:29 pm - 6:01 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Charles W. Colson.
Vietnam negotiations
-US bombing north of 20th Parallel
-Purpose
-Settlement agreement
-Status
-North Vietnam’s delays
-Congressional relations
-Expectation of administration caution
-Henry A. Kissinger’s press conference
-Tone
-Blame on North Vietnam
-Timing
-B-52s
-Hanoi
-Targets
-Power plants, marshaling yards
-Duration
-Possible speech by the President
-Timing
-Congressional reconvention
-Proposals
-Vietnamization
-Settlement agreement
-Political basis
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-US troop withdrawal, cessation of US bombing and mining
-Timing
-Congressional relations
-North Vietnam’s position
-Nguyen Van Thieu’s position
-Withdrawal of North Vietnamese troops from South Vietnam
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-North Vietnam’s position
-Delays
-Congressional relations
-Kissinger
-The President’s role
-Kissinger’s resignation threat
-Conversation with the President
-The President’s trips to the People Republic of China [PRC] and
Soviet Union
-1972 election
-Kissinger’s “peace is at hand” statement, October 26, 1972
-The President’s position
-Peace
-Type
-Timing
The President talked with Arthur Krock between 3:32 pm and 3:35 pm.
[Conversation No. 383-6A].
[See Conversation No. 34-83]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President’s telephone calls
-Krock
-J[ean] Paul Getty
-Birthday greetings
-Wealth
-Krock
-Health
-Effect
-Journalists
-Krock
-Otis Chandler
-Health
Vietnam negotiations
-North Vietnam’s position
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Kissinger
-The President’s position
-Tone
-Settlement agreement
-The President’s place in history
-Timing
-1973 Inauguration
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Colson’s analysis
-Tone
-Kissinger
-US bombing
-Location
-Hanoi, Haiphong
-North of 20th Parallel
-Polls
-1972 campaign
-Kissinger’s press conference, October 26, 1972
-Louis P. Harris
-War as an issue
-Casualties
-Draft
-US bombing
-Duration of war
-US troops
-Number
-Possible statement by the President
-Press relations
-John Chancellor
-[Arnold] Eric Sevareid
-Breakdown
-Timing
-1972 election
-Kissinger
-North Vietnamese actions
-Settlement agreement
-The President’s position
-US bombing north of 20th Parallel
-B-52s
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Hanoi
-Thieu
Public relations [PR]
-Issues
-Vietnam War
-George S. McGovern’s position
-Compared to the President’s
-1972
-Compared to 1968
-Albert E. Sindlinger’s poll
-Crime and drugs
-Inflation
-Vietnam War
-Press relations
Vietnam War
-Press relations
-US bombing north of 20th Parallel
-Hanoi, Haiphong
-Compared to US bombing, December 1971
-Newness
-Cambodia and Laos
-May 1972
-B-52s
-Television [TV]
Vietnam negotiations
-PR
-The President’s announcement
-Timing
-Continuation of US bombing and mining
-Cessation
-US troop withdrawal
-POWs
-Peaceniks
-Congressional relations
-Possible Michael J. Mansfield proposal
-Effect
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Cut off of aid to South Vietnam
-Effect
-South Vietnam’s survival
-McGovern’s position
-1972 election
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1972 election results
-Missouri
-Delay
-Richard M. Scammon
-Arizona
-Socialist Workers Party
-Missouri
-New York
-Missing states
-Scammon’s view
-Compared to Lyndon B. Johnson’s 1964 results
-New York, Arizona
-Scammon
-Missouri
-Percentage
-New York, Arizona
-Scammon
-Socialist Workers Party
-Rounding percentages
-Missouri
-Massachusetts, Rhode Island
-Pennsylvania
-New York
-Michigan
-Missouri
-Pennsylvania
-West Virginia
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
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PR
-Analysis of 1972 election
-Scammon
-Compared to Harris
-The President’s trips to the PRC and the Soviet Union
-Effect
-Peace and progress
-Public perception of the President
-Liberalism
-Competence
-Conservatism
-Public perception of the President
-Centrism
-Economy
-Welfare
-Busing
-Crime
-Permissiveness
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-The President’s success
-Labor
-Catholics
-Blue collar
-Independents
-Democrats
-Compared to Barry M. Goldwater
-Republicans
-Compared to Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Republicans
-Democrats
-Labor
-“New Majority”
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Businessmen
-Professionals
-Compared to previous elections
-Manual labor
-Polls
-[George H.] Gallup
-Harris
-Issues
-Peace
-Food prices
-The President’s family
-Compared to George S. McGovern’s family
-McGovern’s personality
-Support for the President
-Men and women
-Polls
-Gallup
-Blue collar
-Compared to Harris
-Catholics
-Compared to Eisenhower
-Labor
-Independents
-Professionals
-Labor
-Democrats
-John F. Kennedy
-Goldwater
-Catholics
-Eisenhower
-New York
-Pennsylvania
-Johnson
-New York
-Goldwater
-California
-The President’s schedule
-Review of results
-Trip to Florida
-Timing
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Vote certification
-Arizona
-Scammon
-Missouri
-Arizona
-Check on results
-California
-John Birch Society
-John G. Schmitz
-Michigan
-Pennsylvania
-Margin of victory
-Antiwar opposition
-Cynicism
-New York
-Watergate
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Call to Colson
-McGovern
-Theodore H. (“Teddy”) White
-Meeting with Colson
-Southern strategy
-Northern strategy
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Watergate
-Possible television [TV] appearance by the President
-[White’s] view
-Colson’s view
-The President’s involvement
-PR
-Handling
-Timing
-Summer 1972
-E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-[Loss of Dorothy Hunt]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Colson’s conversation with Hunt’s lawyer, [William Bittman]
-Note
-Relationship with the President
-Possible letter
-Colson’s conversation with Bittman
-Robert D. (“Bobby”) Baker
H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 4:03 pm.
The President’s schedule
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Frank E. Fitzsimmons
-Colson’s schedule
-John A. Volpe
-Speech
Movie
-The Emigrants [Utrandrarna]
-Haldeman’s viewing
-Washington Circle
-The President’s viewing
-Swedish language
-Colson’s Swedish grandfather
-Photography
Fitzsimmons
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Harold J. Gibbons
-International Brotherhood of Teamsters
-1972 campaign
-Schedule
Colson’s schedule
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1972 election
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Results
-Compared to Johnson
-Mistakes
-New York
-Arizona
-Missouri
-Electoral college
-Scammon
-California
-Schmitz vote
-Idaho, Oregon, Washington
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Location of an item
Copy
Second term reorganization
-Labor Department
-Under Secretary
-Possible woman appointee [Gertrude Michaelson?]
-Peter J. Brennan
-First term
-Brennan
-Democratic affliation
-Jewish background
-New York
-Colson’s checking
-Florence P. Shientag
-Background
-Fiorello H. Laguardia
-Article in New York Times
-Drug abuse
-Possible position
-Chief of Protocol
-Background
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Judge
-Husband, Monte Sideman
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Possible positions
-Under Secretaryship
-Colson’s conversation with Shientag
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Assistant Attorney General
-Counsel
-John A. Scali
-Ambassadorship to United Nations [UN]
-Announcement
-Timing
-Meeting with the President
-Brennan
-American Broadcasting Company [ABC] offer
-Leonard Goldenson
-Meeting with the President
-Meeting with Haldeman
The President’s schedule
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Attendance
-Politicians
Second term reorganization
-George D. Webster
-Tax law
-John H. Alexander
-Establishment
Scali entered at 4:15 pm.
Greetings
Manolo Sanchez entered at 4:15 pm.
Getty
-Birthday greetings by the President
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-London
Refreshment order
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:52 pm.
Scali ambassadorship to the UN
-George H. W. Bush
-Relationship with the President
-Charles W. Yost
-Relationship with the President
-State Department
-Kissinger
-State Department
-US delegation to UN
-Shirley Temple Black
-Jewell S. Lafontant
-Staff
-Appointments
-Bureaucracy
-State Department
-Scali’s experience
-Loyalty
-Bush’s actions
-Scali’s role
-Press relations
-Relationship with Kissinger, William P. Rogers
-Foreign Service
-Relationship with the President
-US-Africa relations
-State Department
-South Africa
-Hypothetical US military action
-State Department
-Bureaucracy
-African representation at UN
-Press relations
-Black Africa vis-à-vis white Africa
-Apartheid
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Rhodesia
-Chrome
-Great Britain
-Black leadership
-Demogoguery
-Soviet Union, PRC
-US-Soviet Union, US-PRC relations
-The President’s trip to the PRC
-Middle East
-Appearances
-Possible solution
-Great power politics
-US public opinion
-Hijacking resolution vote
-Henry Cabot Lodge
-The President’s view
-George Cabot Lodge
-Role
-Soviet Union
-PRC
-Press relations
-UN staff
-Bureaucracy
-The President’s policies
-ABC
-Colson
-Announcement
-Effect
-State Department
-Press relations
-Scali’s experience
-Haldeman and Colson
-US foreign policy
-Trips to the Soviet Union, PRC
-White House
-National Security Council [NSC], State Department
-PR, Press relations
-Purpose
-Compared with Brennan appointment
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Labor Department
-Yost
-Loyalty
-Foreign Service
-Bush
-Foreign policy
-Press relations
-Foreign Service Officers
-Loyalty
-State Department
-Scali’s role
-Testimony before Senate Committee
-Bush
-Trips to the PRC, Soviet Union, Europe
-Work in White House and State Department
-Africa
-Cabinet rank
White House staff
-Counselors
-Robert H. Finch and Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Finch
-Future plans
-California governorship
-Rumsfeld
-Future plans
-US Senate, Illinois
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Polls
NATO ambassadorship
-David M. Kennedy
-Rumsfeld
-Cabinet rank
Scali’s ambassadorship to the UN
-Cabinet rank
-Lodge
-Eisenhower
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Compared to participation
-Scali’s position
-Rogers and his successor
-NSC meetings
-Budget
-Cabinet meetings
-Pay
-Prerequisites
-Scali’s gratitude
-Scali’s New York contacts
-Scali’s coverage of UN
-Secretary of State
-Nikita S. Krushchev
-UN
-Relationship with the US
-Responsibility to the President
-Loyalty
-FSOs, State Department
-Work with Kissinger
-Work with new Secretary of State
-Work with Rogers
-Scali’s TV contract offer from ABC
-Goldenson’s offer
-Terms
-Special correspondent
-World tour
-White House
-Announcement
-Scali’s reply to Goldenson
-New York
-Italian-Americans
-Scali’s conversations
-Scali’s background
-Fiorello H. LaGuardia
-Jesse M. Unruh
-Mother [Lucy (Leone) S. Scali]
-Scali’s role on White House staff
-Scali’s background
-Previous jobs in Canton, Ohio
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-The President’s visit to Canton
-Education
-Financial status
-Scali’s work habits
-Announcement
-Timing
-Goldenson meeting
-Press relations
-News magazine, networks
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-ABC meeting
-Checking
-William E. Timmons
-Consultation with Senators
-Bush
-Scali’s retention [as Special Consultant to the President]
-Payroll
-Scali’s financial status
-Social functions
-Entertainment
-Social functions
-Yost
-Bush
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Types of parties
-Financing
-Yost
-Bush
-The President’s possible appearance at UN
-The President’s previous appearances
-New York elite
-Bush
-Italian-Americans
-Support for the President
-Opposition to the President
-Upper East Side
-Waldorf Towers Hotel
-John V. Lindsay
-New constituency
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Bush
-The President’s view
-Donald McI. Kendall compared to David Rockefeller
-Education
-Wife
-[Sigrid Irmgard (Baroness Ruedt von Collenberg) “Bim”
Kendall]
-Rockefeller
-Council on Foreign Affairs
-Kissinger
-Support for McGovern
-Kendall
-Bernard J. (“Bunny”) Lasker
-John Loeb
-Donald T. Regan
-James F. Cleary
-John J. McCloy
-Old compared to new elite
-Bush’s background
-Yale University
-Prescott Bush
-Brown Bros., Harriman & Co.
-Wealth
-Texas
-Scali’s relationship with the President
-Scali’s residence
-Waldorf
-Press relations
-Tone
-New York Daily News
-Compared to New York Times
-ABC
-Compared to Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Pauline Frederick
-Reports
-Scali’s role
-US foreign policy
-Vietnam negotiations
-Status
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-US bombing and mining north of 20th Parallel
-North Vietnam’s delays
-Congressional relations
-Africa
-Middle East
-European Security Conference
-Economic matters
-PRC
-Soviet Union
-Interest in policy
-Compared to interest in the President
-Announcement
-Timing
-Vietnam War
-Reseeding of mines
-Propaganda
-Hanoi
-Details
-Congressional relations
-Position
-Social demands
-Social elite
-Scali
-Ambassadorial appointments
-Tenure
-Secretary of State
-Cabinet
Scali left at 4:52 pm.
Scali
-Enthusiasm for appointment
-Compared to other appointees
-Rogers
-Lucy Scali
-Attendance at mass as St. Patrick’s Cathedral
-Possible meeting with Terence Cardinal Cooke
-Possible meeting with [Pope Paul VI] Giovanni Battista Motini
-Possible meeting with Cooke
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Italian-American background
Second term reorganization
-Italian-Americans
-Eugene A. Cafiero
-Vice President of Chrysler Corporation
-Reception for 1972 election
-Republican orientation
-Work with Michael P. Balzano, Jr.
-Secretary of Transportation
-Unknown person
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-List of possible appointees
-Arrival in Chrysler airplane
-Scali’s ambassadorship to the UN
-Democratic appointments
-Anthony J. Celebrezze
-Status
-Compared to Secretary of Transportation,
Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare
[HEW]
-Herbert G. Klein
-Possible job offer from Goldenson
-ABC
-Partisanship
-James C. Hagerty
-Possible job offer from William S. Paley
-CBS
-Salary
-Colson’s conversation with Paley
-Press relations
-TV
-1972 campaign
-Administrative ability
-Press relations
-TV
-Repetition
-Image
-Questions and answers [Q & A]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Number
-Possible job
-CBS
-NBC
-John Chancellor
-CBS
-Colson’s conversation with Paley
-Klein’s credentials, integrity
-Administration opposition
-Second term
-Colson’s conversation with Paley
-Sander Vanocur
-Timing
-Media bias
-Fairness, balance
-Daniel L. Schorr
-Dan Rather
The President’s schedule
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Hand-shaking
-Dinner
John D. Ehrlichman entered and Colson left at 5:03 pm.
Second term reorganization
-Scali’s ambassadorship to the UN
-Scali’s meeting with the President
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with J. Stanley Pottinger
-Private practice
-Appointment
-Scali’s meeting with the President
-Responsibility
-The President
-Secretary of State
-Foreign Service
-Lucy Scali
-Italian-Americans
-Celebrezze
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Volpe
-Cabinet rank
-Prerequisites
-Foreign Service
-Rogers
-Joseph T. Sneed
-Announcement
-Reaction
Press relations
-Ehrlichman’s press conference
-The President’s first term
-The President’s conversation with Haldeman
-George W. Romney, Volpe, John B. Connally, George P. Shultz
-“Lead”
-Ehrlichman’s press conference
-“Lead”
-Duration
-Domestic affairs
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-Foreign affairs
-Klein
-Kenneth W. Clawson
Second term reorganization
-Clawson
-Ziegler’s office
-Domestic affairs
-Ziegler’s office
-Foreign affairs
-James Keogh
-Duties at US Information Agency [USIA]
-Ziegler’s office
-Foreign affairs
-Andrew Volkavich
-Cables
-Kissinger’s office
-The President’s trip to the Soviet Union
-Frank J. Shakespeare
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Loyalty
-FSO
-Possible ambassadorship
-Physical appearance
-Compared to Roy L. Ash
-The President’s trip to the Soviet Union
-Embassy
-Knowledge of Russian and other European languages
-Education
-Age
Candidates for public office
-Preferred ages
-House of Representatives
-Senate
-The President’s approval
-House of Representatives and Senate
Second term reorganization
-Federal judges
-The President’s reconfirmation list
-Justice Department response
-Possible legislation
-Senate Judiciary Committee
-Sallyanne Payton
-Stephen B. Bull
-Office of Legal Counsel
-White House
-Washington, DC
-Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-Transportation Department appointment
-Washington Star editorial
-Washington, DC
-Payton
-Black appointees
-Possible job
-Judgeship
-Justice Department
-Qualifications
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Law school record
-US District Court
-US District Court
-Lafontant
-Washington, DC
-White House
-Staff
-James T. Lynn
-Payton
-Justice Department
-Sneed
-General Counsel
-Age
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-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Chief of staff
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
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Second term reorganization
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s staff
-Haldeman’s meeting with Constance M. (Cornell) (“Connie”) Stuart
-Stuart’s departure
-Staff director for Mrs. Nixon
-Press Secretary
-Marge Byers
-Haldeman’s meeting
-Attitude
-Robert G. Dixon, Office of Legal Counsel, Justice Department
-Italian-Americans, blacks
-Height
-Constitutional law specialization
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Work with John W. Dean, III
-Quality
-Michael P. Balzano, Jr.
-Promotion
-Appointments
-Needs
-The President’s supporters, New Majority
-Scali
-State Department
-Colson’s and Haldeman’s role in appointment
-Scali’s role
-Note to Haldeman
-Colson
-Cafiero
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Italian-American background
-Chrysler Corporation
-Work for President in 1972 election
-Italian-Americans
-Transportation Department
-Italian-Americans
-White Anglo-Saxon Protestants [WASPs]
-Colson’s list
-Frederic V. Malek
Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 5:03 pm and 5:55 pm.
[Conversation No. 383-6D]
-Cafiero
[End of telephone conversation]
Second term reorganization
-Edward David, Jr.
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-George P. Shultz
-Woman appointees
-Dixy Lee Ray
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
-Florence Shientag
-NASA
-David
-James Fletcher
-David
-Compared to Fletcher
-Haldeman’s telephone call to Shultz
-Fletcher
Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:03 pm and 5:55
pm.
[Conversation No. 383-6B]
Request for a call to Shultz
[End of telephone conversation]
Second term reorganization
-AEC
-Ray
-Symbolism
-Compared to Maritime Commission
Haldeman talked with Shultz at an unknown time between 5:03 pm and 5:55 pm.
[Conversation No. 383-6C]
Second term reorganization
-David
-AEC
-Status
-NASA
-Supersonic Transport [SST]
Press relations
-Ehrlichman’s press conference
-Tone
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-The President’s conversation with Haldeman
-Compared to 1972 campaign
-Rather
-Partisanship
-Advocacy
-The President’s opposition
[End of telephone conversation]
Second term reorganization
-David
-AEC
-Budget
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Energy research and development [R & D]
-John C. Whitaker
-Interior Department
-Whitaker
-Conversation with the President
-Plan
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Shultz
-Ehrlichman’s and Shultz’s conversations with Peter M. Flanigan
-Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
-George D. Webster
-Conversation with Colson
-Mismanagement suit by First Western
-Savings and Loan Association, 1967
-Retaliatory suit
-Appeal
-Tax deficiency assessments
-Tax-exempt associations
-Business deductions
-Cattle
-Tax deficiency assessments
-Shultz
-Confirmation problems
-Dean’s recommendation
-Colson
-Shultz
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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Conversation No. 383-6 (cont’d)
-Tax lawyers
-Tax deficiencies
-Alexander
-Dean’s recommendation
-Webster’s personality, loyalty
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Colson
-Justice Department
-Holdovers
-Ivy League
-Number
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-White House relations
-Kissinger
-Arms Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA]
-Secor D. Browne
-Robert D. Timm
-Browne
-ACDA
-Karl R. Bendesten
-Age
-Qualification
-Philip J. Farley
-Kissinger, Rogers
-Harold Agnew
-Los Alamos Laboratory
-Staff budget
-Bendesten
-Jackson
-Staff recommendations
-Bendesten
-Kissinger
-Farley
-Agnew
-William A. Nierenberg
-Director at Scripps Institute at La Jolla
-Edward Teller and Jackson
-Teller and Jackson
-Teller
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-Agnew
-Jackson
-Bureaucracy
-Qualifications
-Strategic issues
-Government, administrative experience
-Compared to Agnew
-Politics
-Support for the President
-Agnew
-Current position
-Los Alamos
-Antiballistic missiles [ABMs]
-Requirements
-Reform
-Spokesman
-Congressional relations
-ABM
-U. Alexis Johnson
-Reform
-Spokesman
-Bendesten
-Age
-Reform
-Age
-ACTION
-Wallace H. Johnson
-General Counsel
-Congressional relations
-Loyalty
-Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]
-General Service Administration [GSA]
-Hugh Scott’s staffer [Robert L. Kunzig]
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Scott
-Arthur F. Sampson
-Malek’s view
-Kunzig
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Scott
-Johnson
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-Congressional relations
-Dr. Robert L. DuPont
-Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
-Under Secretary level
-Frank C. Carlucci
-Ash’s recommendation
-State Department
-Rogers’s recommendation
-Deputy Assistant Secretary for Administration
-William J. Casey
-Tenure
-Transitional period
-Carlucci’s loyalty
-Casey
-Agency for International Development [AID]
-Daniel Parker
-Loyalty
-Casey
-AID
-President of Sero [?] Corp., Bedford [first name unknown]
-Litton Industries
-Ash
-Charles D. (“Tex”) Thornton
-Possible black appointee [Thomas A. Wood]
-TAW International Leasing, Inc.
-Africa, Latin America
-[Decision Systems, Inc.]
-[Gillette exectutive] [Walter Hunnewell, Jr.]
-FSO
-FSO in Eisenhower administration
-Age
-Education
-Harvard University, M.B.A.
-Wood
-Background
-Michigan
-A Litton executive
-Background
-Education
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-California Institute of Technology
-Harvard University M.B.A.
Budget
-1974
-The President’s schedule
-Possible meeting
-Cabinet
-Shultz
-Timing and location
-Camp David
-Cuts
-Vietnam War
-Defense Department
-Supplemental
-1974, 1973
-Printing
-1974
-Colson [?]
The President’s schedule
-State of Union address
-Second term reorganization
-Assistant Secretaries, Under Secretaries
-Ambassadorships
-West Germany
-Martin J. Hillenbrand
Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Press conference on the President’s first term
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Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-W[illiam] Averell Harriman’s comment
-1976 election
-Future in politics
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Ehrlichman’s press conference on the President’s first term
-Press relations
-Attendance
Second term reorganization
-Congressional relations
-Ash
-Meeting with Najeeb E. Halaby
-Plans
-Release
-Timing
-Congressional relations
-Reconvention
-January 1973
-Consultations
-Congressional relations
-Gerald R. Ford
-Breakfasts
-Republicans
-William M. Colmer
-Meetings
-The President’s role
-Scott
-Afternoon meetings
-The President’s schedule
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-The President’s habits
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-Effect
1972 election
-Results
-New Jersey
-Votes for the President compared to votes for Clifford P. Case
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Linwood Holton
-Busing
-Questions at Ehrlichman’s press conference
-Welfare reform
-Busing
-Minorities
-The President’s first term
-Busing
-The President’s position
-1972 campaign
Ehrlichman left at 5:55 pm.
Second term reorganization
-Ambassadorships
-Stans
-Labor
-Leonard C. Meeker
-Age
-Labor
-Einar Mohn
-James Suffrage
-Blacks
-Orville Pitts
-Sweden
-Washington, DC City Council
-Leroy Jefferies
-Liberia
-Dr. Edgardo Buttari
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-Ecuador
-Phillip V. Sanchez
-Panama
-Ecuador
-Kissinger
-Relations with Cuba
-Fidel Castro
-Paraguay
-Guyanna, Ghana
The President and Haldeman left at 6:01 pm.
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