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Conversation 384-003

TapeTape 384StartSunday, December 10, 1972 at 9:55 AMEndSunday, December 10, 1972 at 10:02 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Colson, Charles W.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
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On December 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:55 am to 10:02 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 384-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 384-3

Date: December 10, 1972
Time: 9:55 am - 10:02 am
Location: Executive Office Bulding

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 34-28]
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Hello.
Well, how was your trip to Braxton?
You alive or not?
Fine.
Right.
Well, I guess we, uh, were a little bit too, uh, over-counted on that straw.
You got it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
How bad is it that it's for us?
Yeah.
It wasn't just comedy.
It was sort of a cop-out.
Yeah.
Even if the deficit or the security doesn't have a place to go for the big marvels, you know, people are probably not going to find out right now.
They checked the first boat, and then after that, we started walking around.
This guy didn't stop that.
He didn't make quite a few of the problems.
He didn't go at all.
He didn't get many.
He was not that sure of that time.
Brennan, I'm sure that's where he would come, of course, if he already had it.
But let's go right after Meany and put Jen up in the grass.
We've got to keep that in check.
to be a field aid for the left wing.
And if he waits too long, then, you know, there's going to be one hell of a time where every ship leaves and every person gets a power.
Yeah.
And Chuck, there's no alternative to a pirate, but a lot of other pirates can't beat, you know what I mean, on the basis of brawn and adversity.
Yeah.
There they are.
Yeah.
Hello.
No, I think you ought to call and give me your code 13-0.
Just say that you're going on your own.
That's the thing.
So I just say, look, you're worried about my business dues, and then I pour it to him.
I say, for Christ's sake, help me.
He's got labor.
He's got all that.
He's got all that.
I think, uh, and he said, you know, uh, he had, he had, he had a lot of heavy work, but...
You know, he's a very clever fellow.
But on the other hand, it's good that he hears from a few people.
Because he'll hear from the Democratic left.
They'll want to keep him in.
You know, the Mary Lasters and all that have been built in.
They're all signing around him now.
But surely the old left figure, he's their only horse.
Yeah, well, after all the meetings against Jackson, it was a good one.
Well, anyway, I give him a call.
All right.
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