{"conversationCode":"384-009","tapeNumber":384,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-384-009","startDateTime":"1972-12-14T19:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-14T19:10:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Dec-1972","startTime":"2:09 PM","endDate":"14-Dec-1972","endTime":"2:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Timmons, William E.;","description":"On December 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:09 pm to 2:10 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 384-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 384-9\n\nDate: December 14, 1972\nTime: 2:09 pm - 2:10 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with William E. Timmons.\n\n[See Conversation No. 34-78]","filename":["384-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Timmons, William E."],"prevCode":"384-008","nextCode":"384-010","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":4.88,"text":"He got me."},{"start":8.79,"end":13.81,"text":"Bill, take me over this time."},{"start":13.83,"end":19.54,"text":"So he, uh, he, what the last man's field or whatever it was, got about four months in person to do that."},{"start":19.56,"end":22.44,"text":"And when it was, what the hold up was, okay, fine, okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and William E. Timmons held a brief meeting to discuss the administrative handling and potential sentencing delays involving a specific individual. The conversation focused on the timeline of the legal process and the reasons behind recent bureaucratic hold-ups. No major policy shifts were recorded during this brief exchange.","topics":["Legal proceedings","Sentencing","Administrative delays","White House personnel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:45:07.181Z"},"topicSlugs":["legal-proceedings","sentencing","administrative-delays","white-house-personnel"],"audioDurationSec":29,"audioFiles":[{"file":"384-009.mp3","bytes":706530,"durationSec":29.29,"bitrate":192953,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.213Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/384-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/384-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/384/conversation-384-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}