{"conversationCode":"385-001","tapeNumber":385,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-385-001","startDateTime":"1972-12-11T19:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-11T19:35:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Dec-1972","startTime":"2:30 PM","endDate":"11-Dec-1972","endTime":"2:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On December 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:30 pm to 2:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 385-001 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 385-1\n\nDate: December 11, 1972\nTime: 2:30 pm - 2:35 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n              -Meeting with J. Willard Marriott\n                     -1973 Inauguration license plate\n              -Meeting with Robert O. Anderson of Atlantic-Richfield\n                     -Presentation\n                             -Presidential signature notes\n              -Meeting with Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis, John H. Kauffmann, and Michael J.\n               O’Neill\n                     -Lewis’s and Kauffmann’s trip to the Soviet Union\n                     -Duration\n              -Timing\n              -Meeting with Hugh Scott\n              -Camp David\n              -Meeting with Adm. Lewis L. Strauss\n              -December 15, 1972\n                     -Bethesda\n                             -Physical examination\n              -Meeting with Spanish speaking administration officials\n                     -Second term\n                     -Romana A. Banuelos\n                     -Philip V. Sanchez\n                     -Timing\n\nButterfield left at 2:35 pm.\n\f                                             -2-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["385-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"384-012","nextCode":"385-002","transcript":[{"start":7.24,"end":35.06,"text":"All right."},{"start":35.08,"end":35.32,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":36.63,"end":58.17,"text":"Then after that, of course, Pope Louis and this fellow Jack Kaufman and Michael Beale came back from the Soviet Union."},{"start":58.19,"end":58.75,"text":"They couldn't find that out."},{"start":58.77,"end":59.44,"text":"They were using the Soviet Union."},{"start":59.45,"end":59.98,"text":"Figured that's what it is."},{"start":59.99,"end":60.46,"text":"Well, that's of course."},{"start":60.48,"end":61.18,"text":"So that's chapter five of the book."},{"start":61.2,"end":61.96,"text":"I don't know if you've ever done that."},{"start":61.98,"end":62.92,"text":"So, well, come on, change your version of that."},{"start":62.94,"end":63.5,"text":"Well, that'll be it for now."},{"start":63.52,"end":63.96,"text":"All questions on that?"},{"start":63.98,"end":64.3,"text":"I've got a chat."},{"start":64.32,"end":64.8,"text":"I'll just figure it out."},{"start":65.12,"end":91.81,"text":"Wednesday, 3, Thursday, we're proposing new Scott Gunner, and I'm going to talk to you before that."},{"start":91.83,"end":92.93,"text":"And, uh, Charles, uh, uh, Evan Strauss has passed away."},{"start":93.87,"end":119.53,"text":"The only other thing was next week they proposed that the Spanish speaking"},{"start":120.08,"end":145.78,"text":"Oh I don't mind."},{"start":146.24,"end":153.13,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":153.15,"end":158.15,"text":"But I'll be gone then."},{"start":158.17,"end":158.85,"text":"What does that mean?"},{"start":158.87,"end":159.09,"text":"It's funny."},{"start":159.11,"end":159.39,"text":"It's too late."},{"start":159.41,"end":160.77,"text":"I may leave when I need to."},{"start":160.79,"end":161.09,"text":"I better check."},{"start":161.12,"end":161.5,"text":"I'll see the house."},{"start":161.52,"end":161.9,"text":"I'll see the house."},{"start":161.92,"end":162.12,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met to review and refine the President's upcoming scheduling commitments and logistical arrangements. The discussion focused on coordinating various high-profile meetings, including appointments with business leaders and media figures, as well as managing the President's personal health checkup at Bethesda. Additionally, they addressed the timing for a meeting with Spanish-speaking administration officials regarding the second-term agenda.","topics":["Presidential Scheduling","White House Operations","Second Term Planning","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:45:31.021Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","white-house-operations","second-term-planning","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":167,"audioFiles":[{"file":"385-001.mp3","bytes":4007362,"durationSec":166.83,"bitrate":192168,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:31.029Z","transcriptGapSeconds":127,"transcriptGapShare":0.76,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/385-001.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/385-001","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/385/conversation-385-001","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}