{"conversationCode":"385-002","tapeNumber":385,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-385-002","startDateTime":"1972-12-11T19:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-11T21:05:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Dec-1972","startTime":"2:35 PM","endDate":"11-Dec-1972","endTime":"4:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On December 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 385-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 385-2\n\nDate: December 11, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\n       Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n              -Schedule\n                      -Walking\n                              -Fina Sanchez\n                              -Helene (Colesie) Drown\n              -Press relations [?]\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 4:05 pm.","filename":["385-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"385-001","nextCode":"385-003","transcript":[{"start":0.34,"end":27.21,"text":"Do you hear that?"},{"start":27.23,"end":27.57,"text":"Do you hear that?"},{"start":27.59,"end":27.93,"text":"Do you hear that?"},{"start":27.95,"end":28.13,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":28.15,"end":28.45,"text":"He was walking."},{"start":28.47,"end":28.77,"text":"He was walking."},{"start":28.79,"end":29.09,"text":"He was walking."},{"start":29.11,"end":29.41,"text":"He was walking."},{"start":29.43,"end":29.73,"text":"He was walking."},{"start":29.93,"end":39.1,"text":"something big, like man, really just allowing me to be in this place."},{"start":39.12,"end":40.5,"text":"The way to put me through it is that I'm looking so good, I'm a girl."},{"start":81.98,"end":84.78,"text":"you"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal valet, Manolo Sanchez, to discuss personal matters and logistical arrangements. The conversation focused on the schedule of Julie Nixon Eisenhower, including her walking plans, as well as the involvement of Fina Sanchez and Helene Drown. The participants also touched upon press relations and the President's personal appreciation for his staff.","topics":["Manolo Sanchez","Julie Nixon Eisenhower","White House staff","Presidential schedule","Press relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:45:36.733Z"},"topicSlugs":["manolo-sanchez","julie-nixon-eisenhower","white-house-staff","presidential-schedule","press-relations"],"audioDurationSec":89,"audioFiles":[{"file":"385-002.mp3","bytes":2151019,"durationSec":89.48,"bitrate":192312,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:46.738Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/385-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/385-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/385/conversation-385-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}