{"conversationCode":"385-003","tapeNumber":385,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-385-003","startDateTime":"1972-12-11T19:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-11T21:05:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Dec-1972","startTime":"2:35 PM","endDate":"11-Dec-1972","endTime":"4:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;","description":"On December 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm. 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Kissinger]\n             -Report\n                    -The President’s reading\n                            -Questions\n             -Questions\n                    -Demilitarized Zone [DMZ]\n                            -Withdrawal of North Vietnamese troops from South Vietnam\n                            -Compromise\n\f                                              -3-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 385-3 (cont’d)\n\n              -Haig’s call to the President\n              -Haig’s schedule\n              -Breakdown","filename":["385-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haig, Alexander M., Jr."],"prevCode":"385-002","nextCode":"385-004","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":18.22,"text":"Did you get a good night's sleep?"},{"start":18.24,"end":18.42,"text":"Oh, good."},{"start":18.44,"end":18.54,"text":"Good."},{"start":18.56,"end":19.02,"text":"And report jet?"},{"start":19.04,"end":19.5,"text":"It's better enough."},{"start":19.52,"end":27.43,"text":"I wonder if you really should be back."},{"start":27.45,"end":27.71,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":27.73,"end":28.16,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":28.18,"end":28.43,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":34.46,"end":48.71,"text":"There's no need for me to read the text because it's longer, shorter, and I don't know."},{"start":48.73,"end":49.89,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":49.91,"end":57.64,"text":"Unless it gets to the subject of the question, there's only one question left."},{"start":57.66,"end":59.56,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":63.15,"end":63.79,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":63.81,"end":64.15,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":64.17,"end":64.43,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":64.81,"end":77.44,"text":"It's the very worst of my position."},{"start":77.46,"end":81.83,"text":"I'm just calling back."},{"start":81.85,"end":82.37,"text":"He's trying to go further."},{"start":82.8,"end":109.14,"text":"Okay."},{"start":109.16,"end":110.4,"text":"I hope that if it does, that's going to be nice."},{"start":122.07,"end":124.66,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon met with Alexander Haig to receive updates regarding ongoing Vietnam peace negotiations, specifically focusing on the status of Henry Kissinger's efforts. The discussion centered on a critical remaining point of contention regarding the Demilitarized Zone and the potential for a compromise involving the withdrawal of North Vietnamese troops from South Vietnam. Nixon expressed concerns about the negotiation process while assessing the current diplomatic position.","topics":["Vietnam War","Peace negotiations","Henry Kissinger","Demilitarized Zone","North Vietnamese troops","Diplomacy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:45:42.398Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","peace-negotiations","henry-kissinger","demilitarized-zone","north-vietnamese-troops","diplomacy"],"audioDurationSec":129,"audioFiles":[{"file":"385-003.mp3","bytes":3109610,"durationSec":129.41,"bitrate":192228,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.213Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:31.030Z","transcriptGapSeconds":44,"transcriptGapShare":0.34,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/385-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/385-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/385/conversation-385-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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