{"conversationCode":"385-005","tapeNumber":385,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-385-005","startDateTime":"1972-12-11T19:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-11T21:05:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Dec-1972","startTime":"2:35 PM","endDate":"11-Dec-1972","endTime":"4:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On December 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 385-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 385-5\n\nDate: December 11, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n       Executive Office Building [EOB]\n              -Temperature\n\n       The President’s foot\n\n       Food\n\f                                               -4-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                        Conversation No. 385-5 (cont’d)\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 4:05 pm.","filename":["385-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"385-004","nextCode":"385-006","transcript":[{"start":1.55,"end":28.33,"text":"I know it's a little cold in here."},{"start":28.35,"end":28.57,"text":"This is it."},{"start":28.59,"end":29.07,"text":"It's so cold over there."},{"start":29.09,"end":29.19,"text":"Okay."},{"start":29.21,"end":29.43,"text":"That is it."},{"start":29.71,"end":31.72,"text":"You put her very sore today."},{"start":32.9,"end":33.58,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":33.72,"end":44.08,"text":"It's more sore than the first or second day."},{"start":44.1,"end":45.62,"text":"I guess maybe a couple days will get better."},{"start":45.64,"end":46.06,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":46.08,"end":47.24,"text":"You're looking for a new person."},{"start":47.27,"end":48.87,"text":"You're looking for a new person."},{"start":48.89,"end":48.99,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":72.29,"end":77.26,"text":"They head down to the other office there."},{"start":81.84,"end":82.84,"text":"I don't know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal aide, Manolo Sanchez, to discuss mundane personal matters within the Old Executive Office Building. The conversation primarily focused on the temperature of the workspace and the ongoing physical discomfort Nixon was experiencing due to a sore foot. No significant policy or administrative decisions were made during this brief, informal interaction.","topics":["Manolo Sanchez","Presidential health","Office environment","Personal staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:45:53.353Z"},"topicSlugs":["manolo-sanchez","presidential-health","office-environment","personal-staff"],"audioDurationSec":88,"audioFiles":[{"file":"385-005.mp3","bytes":2104625,"durationSec":87.56,"bitrate":192291,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.437Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:31.030Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/385-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/385-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/385/conversation-385-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}