{"conversationCode":"385-012","tapeNumber":385,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-385-012","startDateTime":"1972-12-11T22:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-11T22:14:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Dec-1972","startTime":"5:01 PM","endDate":"11-Dec-1972","endTime":"5:14 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo; Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On December 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:14 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 385-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 385-12\n\nDate: December 11, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 5:01 pm and 5:14 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n       Refreshment\n\n       The President’s schedule\n              -Charles W. Colson\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 5:09 pm.\n\nThe President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 5:09 pm and 5:10 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 385-12A]\n\f                                            -15-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 385-12 (cont’d)\n\n[See Conversation No. 34-44]","filename":["385-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"385-011","nextCode":"385-013","transcript":[{"start":0.62,"end":7.97,"text":"Hi, Billy."},{"start":7.99,"end":16.32,"text":"How's everything going?"},{"start":16.42,"end":23.29,"text":"How did the Mama's Christmas show go?"},{"start":23.31,"end":23.43,"text":"Great."},{"start":23.45,"end":26.97,"text":"Great."},{"start":26.99,"end":27.45,"text":"Oh, that's wonderful."},{"start":27.91,"end":28.23,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":28.45,"end":29.73,"text":"It's always worse the third day."},{"start":30.62,"end":50.52,"text":"second day or whatever it'll be alright I mean I because I just said it all day so I'm going to move around a little harder yeah I'm hoping it'll be right yeah yeah"},{"start":52.65,"end":71.23,"text":"What about your situation level once you come over, say, at 5.30, and you can talk and walk back over to their office?"},{"start":71.25,"end":71.55,"text":"No, no, no, no."},{"start":71.57,"end":73.63,"text":"That's a good time for me."},{"start":73.65,"end":73.85,"text":"Come over."},{"start":73.87,"end":74.91,"text":"Come over at 5.30 and get back all the money I need."},{"start":74.93,"end":75.03,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":75.06,"end":75.14,"text":"Bye."},{"start":75.33,"end":75.42,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal valet Manolo Sanchez to address matters concerning presidential refreshments and scheduling, specifically regarding Charles W. Colson. Following Sanchez's departure, the President briefly spoke with his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, to check on personal family matters. The session concluded with the President coordinating a follow-up meeting later that evening to resolve outstanding logistical and financial arrangements.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Charles W. Colson","Family","Logistics","Personal staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:46:33.849Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","charles-w-colson","family","logistics","personal-staff"],"audioDurationSec":80,"audioFiles":[{"file":"385-012.mp3","bytes":1926588,"durationSec":80.13,"bitrate":192338,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:31.032Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/385-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/385-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/385/conversation-385-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}