Conversation 385-019

TapeTape 385StartMonday, December 11, 1972 at 5:42 PMEndMonday, December 11, 1972 at 7:10 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Eisenhower, Julie NixonRecording deviceOld Executive Office Building

On December 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:42 pm and 7:10 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 385-019 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 385-19

Date: December 11, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:42 pm and 7:10 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

       The President’s schedule
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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                                                              Conversation No. 385-19 (cont’d)

      Second term reorganization
            -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                    -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                    -West Wing
                           -Rose Mary Woods
                                  -Mail
                    -Mrs. Nixon
                           -Constance M. (Cornell)(“Connie”) Stuart

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      George H. W. Bush
            -Chairman of Republican National Committee [RNC]
            -Robert J. Dole
                    -Senate
            -Ability

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      Second term reorganization
            -United Nations [UN]
            -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                    -Stephen B. Bull’s job
                           -Meetings
                                  -The President’s schedule

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      Nixon Foundation
            -Position for Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                    -Duties
                            -Mail
                            -Library
            -Compared to work at the White House
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                                                            Conversation No. 385-19 (cont’d)

                       -Opportunity

       House purchase
             -Pool

       [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
             -Employment
                    -Harry S. Dent
                           -Congressional seat

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       Second term reorganization
             -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                     -NCVA
                     -White House
                     -Assistance to the President
                            -Secretarial role
                     -David N. Parker
                     -Dwight L. Chapin [?]
                            -The President’s meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                                    -White House staff

       White House
             -Lights
                       -Television [TV]
                       -Microphones
                       -Color

       The President’s schedule
              -Meeting in the Executive Office Building [EOB]
                     -Insiders
                             -Patrick J. Buchanan
                             -1972 campaign

The President and Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 7:10 pm.
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All right.
Want me to go on and over?
No, no, I'm just waiting here.
I think we'll really work out something.
It'll all work out for the best.
The more I think of it, you should work for your mommy.
Because I don't want to have a, you know, it's kind of a big fight.
And I do think you should work over in the West Wing, though.
I think it's a great deal.
Our friends are our only problem here at the school.
That isn't much of a problem, because she's pretty well got her job, you know, and she handles her mail, and mail runs, and she's just as well, you know, kind of fresh and good.
I just hope that makes sense.
So, we would expect you to be the most correct.
Right.
I mean, she was on top.
That's what ought to happen.
But I don't think her personality is a lot easier.
George Bush is going to be the national chairman of the United States.
Good.
I'm sorry to all of you, but I like it.
Do you see that?
Good.
Bush will be good, don't you think so?
Good.
Who will take the U.S.?
You don't know yet?
That's a big job.
It's got to be equal, isn't it?
I mean, you know.
I don't know why they didn't put it in the book.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Because he meets with all these other people and helps them make decisions on what to do and stuff, right?
Yes.
Right.
He said that on the meeting.
Right on.
Right on.
I'm going to have to try to think what he does.
I'm going to try to be calm.
I'm going to have to think what he does.
Well, I'm just willing to accept a lot and all of the, you know, the little ones that I'm listening to, but I'm not going to play.
Right.
Right.
I want you to be in there and let me see what you can do.
Male.
Or, uh, uh, whatever that is.
It's real.
Got it.
I just feel that the way I look at it is that I have a really unique opportunity being associated with the White House.
I've got four years of life that I've had because of the Navy and school and everything.
And I haven't really done anything, you know, that could have helped really to do this.
And I just don't want to, you know, I don't want to do something.
Everybody's part of your life.
Everybody's a part of your life.
That's all.
But anyway, in any event, to find that house in the school was really good for you and your husband.
Yeah, they didn't have a good job.
I spoke to all the network and every desk was quiet.
It was all safe because they turned me out.
I know.
They didn't cut a guy out.
Yeah, for sure.
Everybody wants you to run.
No, I didn't, but...
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
I'm just trying to see if I'm at the center, then I'm not, I'm going to have to think of things to do here.
I mean, I want to stay here if I can really, you know, I don't want to strip the walls anymore.
And they can't come up with enough medicine to keep them out.
So, they're running around, medic, medic, medic.
I mean, you want something that is an 85 job.
So, I mean, if I could help you with a first and second career, you know, in some way, I'd be very happy to do that.
Because that would be, I'd feel like I was making a contribution to the company.
But maybe you don't need that.
You've gone along with the business.
But what I'll do in the morning is I'll sit down at home and do everything.
Yeah, what is that?
It's weird.
It looks like a basketball court, doesn't it?
It's pretty scary, though, isn't it?
I love the gold, yellow, and gold, and gold, and gold, and gold.
Like that.
Yes, why don't you take the number that's on it?
All these people that are...
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I love you.
I love you.
I love you.
Yeah, I'm sure they're going to.
Want me to grab some of those?
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