{"conversationCode":"385-023","tapeNumber":385,"conversationNumber":23,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-385-023","startDateTime":"1972-12-11T22:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-12T00:10:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Dec-1972","startTime":"5:42 PM","endDate":"11-Dec-1972","endTime":"7:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo; Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On December 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:42 pm and 7:10 pm. 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Scouten\n                                    -Timing\n                                    -Christmas\n                                            -Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Tricia Nixon Cox\n                                                    -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n                            -Timing\n                                    -Carpenters\n                                    -Mrs. Nixon\n                            -Ice\n                            -Timing\n                                    -Scouten\n                    -Christmas\n                    -Plan\n\f                                             -37-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 385-23 (cont’d)\n\n                             -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n\nSanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:42 pm.\n\n       White House\n             -Refrigerator in bedroom\n                    -Snacks\n                            -Cheese\n                    -The President’s schedule\n                    -Refreshments\n                            -Milk, juice, wine, scotch and soda\n                    -Kitchen\n                    -Installation\n                            -Hall\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 7:10 pm.\n\n       White House\n             -Refrigerator in bedroom\n                    -Mrs. Nixon’s view\n                            -Tricia Nixon Cox\n                            -Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s conversation with Scouten\n             -Movie projector\n                    -Theater\n                            -Third floor\n                                    -Screen\n                                    -Camp David\n                                    -Crusade in Europe, cartoons\n                                           -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II’s viewing\n\n       Instruction for Sanchez\n               -Carrying items\n\nSanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:42 pm.\n\n       Sanchez’s health\n\n       The President’s schedule\n              -Meeting with Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n                     -Accomplishments\n\f                                             -38-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 385-23 (cont’d)\n\n       Carrying items\n              -Book\n\nThe President, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Sanchez left at 7:10 pm.","filename":["385-023.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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okay?"},{"start":92.59,"end":93.28,"text":"I'll get some rest to do tomorrow."},{"start":93.3,"end":93.8,"text":"I want to do it tomorrow."},{"start":93.81,"end":94.02,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":94.04,"end":94.24,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":94.26,"end":94.88,"text":"I agree."},{"start":94.9,"end":95.06,"text":"I agree."},{"start":96.02,"end":103.89,"text":"Okay."},{"start":110.79,"end":110.91,"text":"Right."},{"start":110.93,"end":119.94,"text":"That would be a great one."},{"start":119.96,"end":120.26,"text":"Oh, it's great."},{"start":120.28,"end":120.84,"text":"Oh, it's so easy to do that."},{"start":120.86,"end":121.32,"text":"They can do it any day."},{"start":121.34,"end":122.06,"text":"They can get their classes up there."},{"start":122.08,"end":122.19,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":122.2,"end":122.44,"text":"That's nice."},{"start":122.47,"end":124.71,"text":"I don't think they can do it over."},{"start":124.73,"end":124.81,"text":"Wow."},{"start":125.7,"end":133.36,"text":"Oh, not exactly."},{"start":133.38,"end":135.58,"text":"What's the price?"},{"start":135.6,"end":137.75,"text":"You'll probably want to put it in your shopping cart."},{"start":138.13,"end":139.31,"text":"I'm going to see you tomorrow morning."},{"start":139.33,"end":140.13,"text":"It's time to do it on Sunday at the A&E."},{"start":140.15,"end":140.53,"text":"That's not good?"},{"start":141.11,"end":141.51,"text":"A&E at the time."},{"start":164.12,"end":179.96,"text":"Heidi looks like a great fan."},{"start":179.98,"end":181.1,"text":"Nothing happened to her."},{"start":181.41,"end":184.17,"text":"Oh, I can get some work."},{"start":184.99,"end":187.07,"text":"So do you, David."},{"start":187.09,"end":190.68,"text":"Oh, I mean, isn't this a great idea?"},{"start":190.7,"end":190.96,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":190.98,"end":191.28,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":191.43,"end":193.25,"text":"."},{"start":193.27,"end":195.31,"text":"."},{"start":196.01,"end":201.48,"text":"."},{"start":202.48,"end":220.62,"text":"."},{"start":221.18,"end":224.54,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":225.58,"end":230.35,"text":"Great idea."},{"start":231.05,"end":238.14,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":249.43,"end":249.65,"text":"Great."},{"start":250.46,"end":254.2,"text":"I understand."},{"start":257.23,"end":260.77,"text":"I understand."},{"start":263.96,"end":266.42,"text":"I'm telling this from the bottom of my heart."},{"start":266.44,"end":267.38,"text":"You just said you wouldn't really decide it."},{"start":267.4,"end":270.19,"text":"If you asked her, she would say no."},{"start":270.21,"end":271.09,"text":"Won't you?"},{"start":271.11,"end":271.45,"text":"What do you mean?"},{"start":271.47,"end":272.01,"text":"She won't."},{"start":272.03,"end":272.25,"text":"That's not."},{"start":272.27,"end":272.47,"text":"Do I know?"},{"start":272.49,"end":272.63,"text":"I know."},{"start":272.65,"end":273.39,"text":"You just said you just thought of it."},{"start":273.41,"end":274.29,"text":"You knew that I walked out there so often."},{"start":274.31,"end":274.69,"text":"You just wanted to."},{"start":274.71,"end":275.17,"text":"You just thought of it."},{"start":275.19,"end":277.06,"text":"You just wanted to put it in."},{"start":277.08,"end":277.6,"text":"You put the damn thing in."},{"start":277.62,"end":277.94,"text":"That'll make it."},{"start":277.96,"end":278.24,"text":"It'll make it."},{"start":278.26,"end":278.54,"text":"It'll make it."},{"start":279.23,"end":293.1,"text":"I'll call a restaurant and tell them."},{"start":293.12,"end":294.19,"text":"No, Bill."},{"start":294.2,"end":299.23,"text":"You've got to write a check and see if the heaven for the show, the third bar, the parking lot, or the sixth, hasn't screened out."},{"start":299.25,"end":299.71,"text":"I knew it would 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