Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 386 › Conversation 386-004

Nixon, Haldeman & Cox on Vietnam War and Henry Kissinger

Tuesday, December 5, 1972 · 6:30 PM–7:35 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 31 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Butterfield, Alexander P.; White House operator; Cox, Tricia Nixon; Monzon, Zosimo T.Conversation386-004 on Tape 386StartTuesday, December 5, 1972 at 6:30 PMEndTuesday, December 5, 1972 at 7:35 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 386-004 ↗

President Nixon met with H. R. Haldeman to discuss the breakdown of Vietnam peace negotiations and the potential for a televised address to explain the situation to the public. They evaluated recommendations from Henry Kissinger and other advisors regarding military strategy, public relations, and the political implications of a potential impasse. The discussion also addressed second-term administrative reorganizations, including ambassadorships, and coordinated the President's upcoming schedule, which involved various meetings and social obligations.

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On December 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, White House operator, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Zosimo T. Monzon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:30 pm and 7:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 386-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 386-4

Date: December 5, 1972
Time: Unknown between 6:30 pm and 7:35 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

       Vietnam negotiations
            -Haldeman’s message to Henry A. Kissinger
                 -Breakdown in talks
                        -Kissinger’s recommendation
                              -The President’s possible television [TV] appearance
                        -Compared to impasse
                              -Consultations
                                    -Recess
                 -Kissinger’s possible statement
                        -Tone
                        -US military action
                              -Duration
                                    -Settlement agreement
                        -Resumption of talks
                 -The President’s possible TV appearance
                        -Breakdown in talks
                              -North Vietnamese intransigence
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                                                               Conversation No. 386-4 (cont’d)

                         -Doves
                         -Haldeman’s conversations with “hard liners”
                                -John B. Connally
                   -Possible effect on Kissinger
                   -Breakdown in talks
                         -Initiative
                                -North Vietnam

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 6:30 pm.

       The President’s schedule
            -Telephone call from Tricia Nixon Cox
                  -Manolo Sanchez
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       Message to Kissinger

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 6:43 pm.

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 6:30 pm and
6:43 pm.

[See Conversation No. 34-148]

[Conversation No. 386-4B]

[End of telephone conversation]

The President talked with Tricia Nixon Cox between 6:43 pm and 6:44 pm.

[See Conversation No. 34-26]

[Conversation No. 386-4A]

[End of telephone conversation]

       Vietnam negotiations
            -Breakdown
                 -Kissinger’s recommendation
                        -The President’s possible TV appearance
                             -Connally’s view
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                                                       Conversation No. 386-4 (cont’d)

                       -Public relations [PR]
                       -US bombing of North Vietnam
                             -Pace
                       -PR
                             -Charles W. Colson’s view
                                    -Boston
                                    -Harvard University
                                    -Princeton University
                             -Announcement
                                    -Kissinger’s possible statement
                                    -Timing
                                          -Kissinger’s return to Washington, DC

The President’s schedule
     -Reception for California administration officials
           -Haldeman’s schedule
                  -Home
           -Robert J. Dole
           -Robert H. Finch’s recommendation
                  -California Republicans
                        -Possible meeting in San Clemente
     -George H. W. Bush
     -Oval Office
     -Telephone calls
           -Ronald W. Reagan
           -Herbert G. Klein
           -Strom Thurmond’s birthday
                  -Harry S. Dent
                  -Private line
                  -Compared to wire
                  -Timing
           -Apollo XVII astronauts
                  -Launch
                        -Timing
                  -Camp David
     -Harry S. Truman
           -Health
                  -Lyndon B. Johnson
                  -Telephone call
                  -Death
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                                                                 Conversation No. 386-4 (cont’d)

       Second term reorganization
            -John A. Volpe
                  -Ambassadorship to Italy
                        -Announcement
                             -Timing
                  -John D. Ehrlichman

       Connally
            -Presidency
                  -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

       Vietnam negotiations
            -Haldeman’s message to Kissinger
                 -Breakdown in talks
                        -Option
                 -Congressional relations
                        -Funds
                              -The President’s view
                 -Breakdown in talks
                        -Kissinger’s return
                              -California
                                    -Press relations
                 -The President’s possible TV appearance
                        -Necessity
                        -Ehrlichman’s and Colson’s views

       The President’s schedule
            -Reception for California administration officials

Zosimo T. Monson entered and Haldeman left at an unknown time before 7:35 pm.

       The President’s schedule
            -Reception for California administration officials

Monson left at an unknown time before 7:35 pm.
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  • 386-002 6:20 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Zosimo T. Monzon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:20 pm and 6:29 pm.
  • 386-003 6:29 PM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:29 pm to 6:30 pm.
  • 034-148 6:30 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:30 pm and 6:43 pm.
  • 034-026 6:43 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone from 6:43 pm to 6:44 pm.
  • 386-005 6:44 PM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:44 pm and 7:35 pm.
  • 386-006 6:44 PM · 43 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:44 pm and 7:35 pm.
  • 386-007 6:44 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:44 pm and 7:35 pm.
  • 386-008 6:44 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:44 pm and 7:35 pm.

Conversation 386-004, December 5, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/386-004 (accessed November 13, 2026).