{"conversationCode":"386-005","tapeNumber":386,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-386-005","startDateTime":"1972-12-05T23:44:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-06T00:35:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Dec-1972","startTime":"6:44 PM","endDate":"5-Dec-1972","endTime":"7:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On December 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:44 pm and 7:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 386-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 386-5\n\nDate: December 5, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 6:44 pm and 7:35 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n       Vietnam negotiations\n            -Haldeman’s message to Henry A. Kissinger\n                 -Kissinger’s resignation\n                        -The President’s and others’ view","filename":["386-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"386-004","nextCode":"386-006","transcript":[{"start":2.93,"end":10.72,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":34.86,"end":40.53,"text":"Hei."},{"start":40.55,"end":40.63,"text":"Hei."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman met to deliberate on the status of Vietnam peace negotiations and the potential resignation of Henry Kissinger. The discussion focused on evaluating internal and external perceptions regarding a possible departure by Kissinger. No final actions were finalized, but the participants weighed the strategic implications of such a resignation on the ongoing diplomatic efforts.","topics":["Vietnam War","Henry Kissinger","Resignation","Foreign policy","Nixon administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:48:47.712Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","henry-kissinger","resignation","foreign-policy","nixon-administration"],"audioDurationSec":50,"audioFiles":[{"file":"386-005.mp3","bytes":1196820,"durationSec":49.72,"bitrate":192569,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/386-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/386-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/386/conversation-386-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}