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Nixon & Kissinger on Vietnam War and Nguyen Van Thieu

Wednesday, November 8, 1972 · 3:11 PM–3:28 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 48 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.Conversation388-009 on Tape 388StartWednesday, November 8, 1972 at 3:11 PMEndWednesday, November 8, 1972 at 3:28 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 388-009 ↗

President Nixon and Henry Kissinger met to coordinate final preparations for a diplomatic mission to South Vietnam. The President confirmed he had signed a letter for President Nguyen Van Thieu and arranged for a briefing with Alexander Haig prior to Haig's departure for Saigon. They also discussed managing public perception through press secretary Ronald Ziegler to ensure the administration's narrative regarding the negotiations remained consistent.

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Henry, if you're not looking forward to the inspection, I'll see you in the plane.
I want to see you, but I don't have to go there.
I signed the letter.
I didn't care if the queue would go off.
Take there.
Maybe you might want to have him pop over then, because I have to go back to the desk for an hour before going to the plane.
So if he's breathing, he can call her or go.
Yeah, I just want to show that you'll sort of be blessed before he goes there.
And then he's got a few put out in the press.
I have a figure put out that I saw hitting him.
Okay?
Good.
Okay.
Bye.

On November 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:11 pm and 3:28 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 388-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 388-9

Date: November 8, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:11 pm and 3:28 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

       Kissinger's schedule
             -Florida trip

       Vietnam negotiations
            -The President’s letter to Nguyen Van Thieu
                 -The President’s signature
            -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                 -Meeting with the President, Kissinger
                        -Timing
                              -Dr. William O. Chase
                                     -The President’s forthcoming trip to office
                                          -The President’s forthcoming trip [to Florida]
                        -Haig’s forthcoming trip [to Saigon]
                        -Press relations
                              -Ronald L. Ziegler
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY
  • 033-073 3:08 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Edward R. G. Heath talked on the telephone from 3:08 pm to 3:11 pm.
  • 033-074 3:11 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:11 pm and 3:28 pm.
  • 388-010 3:11 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:11 pm and 3:28 pm.
  • 388-011 3:11 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:11 pm and 3:28 pm.
  • 033-075 3:28 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 3:28 pm to 3:30 pm.
  • 388-012 3:28 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:28 pm to 3:30 pm.
  • 033-076 3:30 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 3:31 pm.
  • 033-077 3:30 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 3:31 pm.

Conversation 388-009, November 8, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/388-009 (accessed September 28, 2026).