{"conversationCode":"388-012","tapeNumber":388,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-388-012","startDateTime":"1972-11-08T20:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-08T20:30:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Nov-1972","startTime":"3:28 PM","endDate":"8-Nov-1972","endTime":"3:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On November 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:28 pm to 3:30 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 388-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.1","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part I","chronReleaseDate":"11-Jul-2007","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 388-12\n\nDate: November 8, 1972\nTime: 3:28 pm - 3:30 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n[See Conversation No. 33-75]","filename":["388-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"388-011","nextCode":"388-013","transcript":[{"start":0.66,"end":29.49,"text":"With regard, I am using 445 and I wondered if you would get the final updated figures like the sheet that I've got of all the states."},{"start":29.51,"end":30.53,"text":"Well, I didn't want to see the presidential update."},{"start":31.45,"end":53.22,"text":"The last thing you probably have are 138 structures."},{"start":53.24,"end":53.34,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":53.36,"end":54.56,"text":"So by that time, they should have some more bigger machines."},{"start":54.59,"end":55.65,"text":"There's some other machines that have been developed."},{"start":55.67,"end":56.55,"text":"You say we've got a lot of high-level tools."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson briefly discuss the acquisition of updated electoral figures and data sheets broken down by state following the recent election. The conversation focuses on securing precise, high-level analytical tools and updated reports to assess the final outcome. The exchange concludes with a brief mention of the logistical advancement of these reporting systems.","topics":["1972 election","electoral data","Charles Colson","statistical analysis","political reporting"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:51:27.796Z"},"topicSlugs":["1972-election","electoral-data","charles-colson","statistical-analysis","political-reporting"],"audioDurationSec":93,"audioFiles":[{"file":"388-012.mp3","bytes":2227743,"durationSec":92.69,"bitrate":192266,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","transcriptGapSeconds":51,"transcriptGapShare":0.54,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/388-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/388-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/388/conversation-388-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}