{"conversationCode":"389-013","tapeNumber":389,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-389-013","startDateTime":"1972-11-04T16:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1972","startTime":"11:00 AM","endDate":"4-Nov-1972","endTime":"11:01 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; White House operator;","description":"On November 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 11:01 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 389-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 389-13\n\nDate: November 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:00 am - 11:01 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Telephone calls\n                  -Colson\n                         -Air Force One\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator at 11:00 am.\n\n[Conversation No. 389-13A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 33-30]\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Henry A. Kissinger’s request for a meeting\n                  -The President’s telephone calls\n                  -Meeting with Colson\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:01 am.\n\f                                                 -19-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                         (rev. Feb.-08)","filename":["389-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","White House operator"],"prevCode":"389-012","nextCode":"389-014","transcript":[{"start":15.66,"end":19.32,"text":"I think it's kind of ."},{"start":46.08,"end":57.48,"text":"I am saying, he knows what he's doing."},{"start":57.5,"end":58,"text":"He knows what he's doing."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his aide Stephen B. Bull and the White House operator to coordinate administrative logistics and manage his daily schedule. The primary focus involved arranging telephone communications, specifically with Charles Colson via Air Force One, and scheduling a meeting with Henry Kissinger. This interaction served to finalize the President's immediate operational agenda and facilitate priority executive outreach.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Charles Colson","Henry Kissinger","White House communications","Executive office logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T17:53:14.807Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","charles-colson","henry-kissinger","white-house-communications","executive-office-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":68,"audioFiles":[{"file":"389-013.mp3","bytes":1629063,"durationSec":67.75,"bitrate":192371,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.437Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/389-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/389-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/389/conversation-389-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}