Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 389-018
Date: Saturday, November 4, 1972 at 11:02 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Colson, Charles W.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Hibbard, Henry; Bull, Stephen B.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/389-018

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[0:29] I wouldn't get to a point where it would start to go off.
[0:43] I think we basically just spent the fourth box of dollars.
[0:45] And I think we may be looking at the retailer to go a little bit closer.
[0:46] I don't think he's saying very much.
[0:53] Now what he's saying is that you should be able to keep that ball as long as possible.
[1:14] And we know that his credibility is very, very low.
[1:15] A lot of times you can do that.
[1:40] The campaign director said, stay right out of what we are going to do.
[1:55] Well, I'm going to say, if I'm sitting in all of these, I'm going to get the shit wrong.
[1:57] And the name of the governor is going to work.
[1:58] And I'm going to get my job done.
[1:59] It's not bothering me.
[1:59] Well, they don't need to do it.
[2:00] I'm going to be watching nothing.
[2:01] Nothing.
[2:01] I'm going to get my job done.
[2:01] I'm going to get my job done.
[2:20] Yeah.
[2:25] Yeah.
[2:32] Hello?
[2:33] Yeah, I just wanted to tell you that there's a bunch of ladies that I know that I'm still fighting with a heart attack.
[2:39] all for you, as I do in any case in my letter.
[2:55] I wish you the very best, and I can't thank you enough for the days with the fellow people of Montana.
[2:57] I'd like to appreciate the fact that they've always supported me, and I so appreciate their support again, and that I think that what you stand for is a feat with honor, not a record by an animal or a feat with strength.
[3:18] Good.
[3:24] You're moving.
[3:25] You're moving up on my hope.
[3:28] Because we just wish you the very best.
[3:30] I know that's what we expected.
[3:31] I've been amused.
[3:33] I've been very amused, of course, to the...
[3:42] I wish we could.
[4:05] As a matter of fact, let me tell you, I've tried to work out to see if I ever went up that far, but there's just something going on in all directions.
[4:08] There are reasons I didn't go there, you know, as we like to put it together.
[4:15] and I'm there to spare all the way.
[4:39] And you tell that to the press.
[4:39] Thank you.
[4:40] The President's coming to town tonight, so this could result in something else.
[4:41] No, we don't.
[4:42] I don't know.
[4:42] Yeah, they've been shot.
[4:42] I'll be out in a minute.
[4:43] It's a great good thing.
[4:43] You can send everyone whatever you want to the police prison.
[4:45] The prison is willing.
[4:46] but a very tough thing to do.
[5:06] And it was actually, I didn't want to embarrass anybody, but still, I didn't want to do it.
[5:07] And the only way they decided that we could do this, and they didn't, they had a partner, and the only way, not that I stopped, but I called in the person who was in the office, and he said, you know, I've been here for a while, so I didn't let them know.
[5:15] Now he will do that to you.
[5:40] He will do that to you.
[5:41] He will do that to you.
[5:41] He will do that to you.
[5:42] He will do that to you.
[5:43] On the ground.
[6:02] On the ground.
[6:02] On the ground.
[6:07] There was no event set in New Jersey.
[6:27] All right, but he talked to you, and we're trying to set one up.
[6:28] They need to work, and it can't be done in the best, you know, in the best versions, you know?
[6:30] No one allows it right now.
[6:30] Yeah, we don't even have a computer in New Jersey that we can bring in.
[6:32] It just happens.
[6:32] There's nothing there.
[6:33] There's nothing else that you can take over.
[6:34] If you try to go for an important statement at this point, it would be a bad business.
[6:35] Yeah, yeah.
[6:36] The way to do this is to make maximum use of the office of the vice president and give us a deadline for the vice president.
[6:56] Without that deadline, we're done.
[6:57] We're good.
[6:57] We're effective.
[6:58] We're effective and careful.
[6:58] No matter what you do, you have to do that.
[6:59] That's what you do.
[7:00] You have to do it.
[7:00] You have to do it.
[7:00] You have to do it.
[7:01] You have to do it.
[7:01] You have to do it.
[7:01] You don't think you should have questions.
[7:03] I agree.
[7:22] I agree.
[7:23] I agree.
[7:23] I agree.
[7:23] I agree.
[7:29] We've done it all the time.
[7:39] We've done it all the time.
[7:41] We've done it all the time.
[7:42] We've done it all the time.
[7:45] We've done it all the time.
[7:45] We've done it all the time.
[7:47] We've done it all the time.
[7:47] We've done it all the time.
[8:05] The plan is going to fail right now.
[8:27] In fact, this is out of my sight.
[8:49] I mean, these negotiations, which are now moving forward in some sense, that's pretty desperate.
[8:51] Desperate, but they're not doing it.
[8:52] They're not doing it.
[8:52] They're not doing it.
[8:53] They're not doing it.
[8:53] So they're irresponsible.
[8:54] They're disqualified.
[8:58] Then I go on to say what he is trying to do.
[9:46] and the President of the United States of America.
[10:03] He's got to get to the other end of the United States of America, and then the American people will have a great kind of lead.
[10:06] And I think that there's a big, there's a big, there's a massive gravity
[10:09] This country stands for peace without our not being free.
[10:31] Let's get out of the way for a second.
[10:32] The first thing we want to do today is to ask you a question.
[10:33] The first thing we want to do today is to ask you a question.
[10:34] The first thing we want to do today is to ask you a question.
[10:35] The first thing we want to do today is to ask you a question.
[10:38] Yeah.
[10:59] Yeah.
[10:59] Yeah.
[10:59] Yeah.
[11:02] That's probably what we should be following up on.
[11:22] It was very quick, it was very tough, and it was very well done, but it didn't get into visibility at all.
[11:24] The question, the problem here is the question, does it help?
[11:25] I think, I would look at this one, but it's more struggling on a very high point.
[11:30] I think that's what we did.
[11:42] For all the people who are doing this, I intend to create it myself.
[11:56] I intend, in other words, to take this job and give it a hand.
[11:57] Alright, let's do the first question.
[11:58] Right, let's do the first question.
[11:59] Number one, the credibility is really bad.
[12:00] How many people believe in this story?
[12:00] Why do you think that's part of it?
[12:01] Do you think that's a good answer?
[12:02] Do you think you can struggle with it?
[12:03] I don't wonder if people believe something about it.
[12:04] I don't think that's a good answer.
[12:04] There's a lot of this around here.
[12:27] All right, you may have your roll.
[12:58] You were called to come to the procedure, though.
[13:22] The line was quite off.
[13:22] I put out a statement.
[13:23] I'll read it for the press.
[13:23] There's no reason to do it.
[13:24] We need to wait.
[13:24] So what?
[13:24] There's no reason to do it?
[13:25] There's one.
[13:25] No, I have a problem.
[13:26] I have a problem.
[13:26] I have a problem.
[13:26] I have a problem.
[13:43] Well, we have a real problem here.
[14:02] I mean, we've got a lot of work to do.
[14:03] Some of the guys are working on something, as well as the truck.
[14:04] That's exactly what I'm saying.
[14:05] We're allowed to go ahead and adjust as well as we can.
[14:06] I mean, the work is going on, but we've got to go ahead and adjust.
[14:07] And just roll it on.
[14:08] That's what we want to do.
[14:08] That's why I stress on call.
[14:09] When you say it's a present order, and you hear this, it's not all good.
[14:10] I don't want to have to say that.
[14:11] I mean, it's better for the vice-director to want to do it, and he should.
[14:12] We're just switching over to him.
[14:13] Good morning.
[14:26] Good morning.
[14:26] It is your plane.
[14:45] Roger, do you want to ask your questions, or ask mine?
[15:43] But he didn't work in Chicago or Oklahoma.
[16:00] His Chicago did not go to Oklahoma.
[16:10] It doesn't matter who it was.
[16:30] It doesn't matter who lived in Chicago because of the nature of the man.
[16:32] But the problem there was the positioning of, they had all of the machinery that was all around them just set up long.
[16:49] They were down, so we can kind of let them go and hang them up because that's the problem.
[16:50] And a hanger, specifically a hanger is apparently the worst structure material.
[17:03] I don't know.
[17:21] I don't know.
[17:22] I don't know.
[17:35] and sound systems.
[17:45] I'm back over again today with the latest support from drivers.
[17:46] I hope you know that this is the best chance.
[17:47] I'm very, very happy with it.
[17:55] We're outside.
[18:23] We're outside.
[18:24] We're outside.
[18:28] I think they were pretty good on that.
[18:48] I think they were pretty good.
[18:48] Oh yeah, I think I got it to the microphone.
[18:49] We'll stop that.
[18:49] The last night they were not as effective.
[18:50] The reason they're not as effective.
[18:51] The reason they're not as effective.
[18:52] The reason they're not as effective.
[18:53] The reason they're not as effective.
[19:08] It's a burger.
[19:14] It's a big guy.
[19:15] He's biting it a lot.
[19:15] He's biting it a lot.
[19:16] The only thing that's perfectly fair to the community is the farmers being advised to be there in the summer of 1996.
[19:36] If you're in the state, you know that planting is very different.
[19:37] It's not going to have that in consideration.
[19:38] So, early on in planting, we stayed in the office for about a year.
[19:42] You didn't know you had to report something like that.
[20:07] Anyway, Park's plans to go outside.
[20:25] He's got an offer.
[20:25] But she was out.
[20:25] And I think that's where Park went today.
[20:27] He was a very big conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative.
[20:51] That is good.
[21:07] And, you know, that's what it is.
[21:07] There's the man that's calling the estate money.
[21:08] He's calling the estate money.
[21:09] He has a cold, another expensive house.
[21:10] And he sees Washington.
[21:10] And he sees this thing that our new establishment is building.
[21:11] He can start.
[21:12] He doesn't do it now.
[21:12] Come on.
[21:12] We'll have the money to do it.
[21:13] And he'll pay his wife.
[21:16] It is Sunday night covers instead of Christmas on break, Sunday night covers.
[21:35] Okay, we'll tell our people.
[21:35] What's the timing of the program?
[21:36] We'll have it set up.
[21:36] All right, we have that report for Christmas on break.
[21:37] But what you do, you drop it on your history.
[21:38] You've got another part of the record on the line.
[21:39] And all the rest of it is Sunday night covers.
[21:42] And that builds his thing on this specifically.
[22:03] He's all excited about that trade.
[22:03] So I just want you to know, because I know you brought me the first thing you shared about what you were about to do.
[22:06] And I want you to do it.
[22:06] And then you said maybe later on, if the president probably wanted to consider it on the bench, you could have put it in that.
[22:09] That's the thing.
[22:09] You put it in that.
[22:11] Good.
[22:24] Thank you, Adam.
[22:25] Wonderful, Adam.
[22:25] Which most of our people have done.
[22:26] They're really good.
[22:26] Yes.
[22:26] Beautiful.
[22:26] Beautiful.
[22:37] I don't know what it was.
[22:50] I mean, it probably was.
[22:50] Like, I don't know how safe that might have been.
[22:51] There was an internal memo he wrote eight months ago.
[22:52] I don't know what they did on that.
[22:53] I don't know, but I think it might have been.
[22:54] What the hell is that?
[22:54] I don't know.
[23:10] You know, I was thinking about
[23:43] Well, I don't know.
[24:10] I don't know.
[24:11] I don't know.
[24:11] I don't know.
[24:11] I don't know.
[24:12] He never mentioned a crowd figure.
[24:32] They have done this before.
[24:32] They have done this before.
[24:33] They have done this before.
[24:33] They have done this before.
[24:34] They have done this before.
[24:34] They have done this before.
[24:35] They have done this before.
[24:41] I was wondering what the hell is going on with the, uh, with the, uh, with the other kill packers?
[25:11] I thought it was Paul.
[25:12] Where, how, where, where, where, where, where, where, where.