Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 390-001
Date: Thursday, November 2, 1972 at 12:04 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Pappas, Thomas A.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/390-001

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[0:01] I thought I might have to send you back down a little bit more closely.
[0:26] I can't get away with it for three times now.
[0:27] No, I know.
[0:27] But I'd hold it with me.
[0:28] I'd hold it with me.
[0:28] The whole room.
[0:29] But honestly, I would have to hold it on to the dark for good.
[0:30] This is what I know.
[0:30] This is what I'm thinking.
[0:32] So she thinks if I tell her I'm not going to get any other tickets, uh, I can still go back away and she'll ask me whether to do a smokey.
[0:54] I think you're right, though, for them all.
[0:55] I think she's been doing it so well.
[0:56] And, uh, she'll do it without a quotation, but without a quotation.
[0:57] And she'll say, man, I'm sorry.
[0:58] And I'll say, I've done some thinking and development about, uh, who ought to go out there and, um, come.
[1:00] I think you're the next.
[1:20] No, I thought that you... No, that's not it.
[1:21] The reason, the reason I, let me say that I'm convinced that we can do this, is we don't have anybody in the government that I trust enough.
[1:24] I mean, it's the second possible brush to prove my knowledge.
[1:25] How will they construct it?
[1:25] I mean, we don't.
[1:26] We need a man who's true to what we're going to need.
[1:27] We don't need a television hall.
[1:27] We don't need a Democrat.
[1:28] He has no political action in mind.
[1:45] I mean, in terms of, somebody's got to go out there and put down a month to pay him for it.
[1:47] Well, I thought what it would be the next week would be for Hayes to go bring in a letter from you, and then Conway could go and let me have the next round of negotiations to see that that would be.
[1:51] And they did it now, and it was perfect.
[1:53] You can't really put anybody else in this league, in this kind of thing, because he's a strong kind of person.
[2:18] He will have no action, right?
[2:18] Larry, first of all, Larry played us on the end.
[2:19] And the comedy we showed, I hope the building is going to be good.
[2:20] And he also, you know, he's very, very confident.
[2:26] Hello?
[2:47] Tom, I want you to know that my wife just thought we put on a great dinner.
[2:49] She said it was one of the best rallies they ever had.
[2:50] And I said, well, that's what I expected from you.
[3:13] You said it was an honorable show, but right on the heart of an involvement.
[3:14] Yeah.
[3:14] And as part of those, as part of those, I figured I'd stay off too much, you know.
[3:16] Yeah.
[3:16] It doesn't matter.
[3:17] It doesn't matter.
[3:17] They were just nasty looking people.
[3:18] Burned cars and flash cars.
[3:18] Fine, fine, fine.
[3:19] We're just fine.
[3:27] How are you feeling?
[3:37] Fine.
[3:37] Well, we've got four more days.
[3:38] You keep riding.
[3:38] Thank you.
[3:38] I know.
[3:39] I know you do.
[3:39] Bye, Tom.
[3:39] Thank you.
[3:40] What I think is next week's date is just going to happen on that day.
[3:50] Is it?
[3:50] Because I know we have nothing to do with it.
[3:51] Then, after my next job, there's no reason for me to say we have a date.
[3:52] Is there anything that you can do?
[4:16] Is there anything that you can do?
[4:17] Is there anything that you can do?
[4:17] Is there anything that you can do?
[4:18] Is there anything that you can do?
[4:19] Is there anything that you can do?
[4:21] And, uh, and I thought that that was good, and I didn't want to go off the line that you had said that the outcome of it was good.
[4:46] Yeah.
[4:46] But, uh, well, it's a strange, strange thing.
[4:47] It is a fine analysis that it is, but it's a strange thing.
[4:48] Of course, the passion has no choice, but the crisis is choice that we have.
[4:50] I think you,
[4:50] And then I think we just have to accommodate it.
[5:19] We won't mention it to anybody else.
[5:44] I don't want to be a challenge.
[5:45] Well, if you want to hear again today, I already have a message for Garcia.
[5:59] I want to make sure that anyone out there who's in contact with us, whether it's a major or minor moment, whether it's the United States, the United States, the United States, and each time and so forth, I would take what they may have before and how to do it.
[6:05] that makes how they made it through the country, yes.
[6:27] Is it true?
[6:28] Yes, I think so.
[6:28] Actually, I think it's incredible what I've seen in those folks.
[6:29] I think the better part of it would be if some were announced and they played that game and had the best of all moments.
[6:32] You can work it out.
[6:36] ... ... ... ... ... ...
[7:07] And then I thought the next Wednesday, it would be just, uh, uh, in common, not so today, I don't know, actually, but after the election, all of a sudden, I'll get back.
[7:31] I'll be okay.
[7:31] I'm not worried about it at all.
[7:32] I guarantee that within two weeks of the election, I'm going to have it up and tested.
[7:34] The process will be, uh,
[7:35] against you, and that's the whole point of Jews are convinced.
[7:49] And everybody else is convinced.
[7:50] It's softly a contract, a viable contract, when you see it.
[7:51] It's a pressure point, but it's part of the population.
[7:52] It's an argument that we see, and that's where it brings you back into the moment.
[7:54] So that's how it is.
[8:06] The issue will have good hope if I get some of their forces out.
[8:27] They've already withdrawn in the last week.
[8:28] They've had the exact opposite of what we need.
[8:29] And our intention is that we withdraw the 326th Division of the Government of the United States.
[8:31] I guarantee, by the time the agreement is made, three or four divisions will have left.
[8:33] And we didn't say that.
[8:33] But the order we can make, and we shouldn't make, before the agreement is signed,
[8:35] So what would be left there would be about $100,000 in support.
[8:55] That's the last sentence for me.
[8:56] That's $100,000 against the mayor, against the governor of Michigan.
[8:57] And no right to reinforce, no right to replace.
[8:58] Of course, I would love to have everybody to be part of the board of directors.
[9:00] Of course.
[9:13] It didn't say he was doing that sound then, I could understand.
[9:35] But what about the song?
[9:35] He first played that.
[9:36] And it used to be that right now, the great majority of the songs are on that.
[9:39] and I keep going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on
[10:06] Ten days ago, Mr. President, if you had said that you would stay an office in the Senate, that would exactly be a trap decision.
[10:19] If you had put out the peace terms, which we've seen in the highest proposals, this would be your time in Washington.
[10:22] I'm going to point out tomorrow.
[10:41] And that's what comes through.
[11:02] If I didn't manage to be there, I would tell them to pack this bag out.
[11:04] So that would be, like, uh, effective.
[11:05] But it shows that anyway, if I'm 60 percent, you wouldn't have to be 70.
[11:11] I mean, it would help us to identify ourselves with the values of our decisions.
[11:34] The decisions now, because the terms are better than most of the decisions I've ever done.
[11:36] I understand.
[11:36] Bullshit.
[11:36] Bullshit.
[11:36] But they all want that, I think, to be true.
[11:37] They don't really know what to attack them.
[11:38] They decide that after most of the decisions.
[11:39] There's one.
[11:39] They say there's one.
[11:40] They have to be able to prove
[11:40] Well, I mean, you're feeling all right, aren't you?
[12:07] You're going with me to California, aren't you?
[12:08] Yes, but I think that's important.
[12:09] I wondered if you might even consider .
[12:10] Oh, wait a minute.
[12:27] The telephonic, you'll see one day.
[12:28] You'll see North Carolina and New Mexico.
[12:29] But tomorrow, you'll just stay here.
[12:30] You'll be here.
[12:30] But I'll be sure that you knew.
[12:31] Alive.