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Nixon & Hoopes on Office Administration and Personnel Management

Thursday, November 2, 1972 · 7:00 PM–7:04 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 7 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Hoopes, David C.Conversation390-021 on Tape 390StartThursday, November 2, 1972 at 7:00 PMEndThursday, November 2, 1972 at 7:04 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 390-021 ↗

President Nixon met with David C. Hoopes to discuss administrative logistics and scheduling, including the management of an unknown woman’s office space and the removal of specific items from her desk. The brief exchange also touched upon travel or personnel logistics involving labor considerations and scheduling, concluding with requests for refreshments. The conversation served primarily as a coordination meeting for the President’s immediate office operations.

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Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
Got any of the food?
No.
Hello.
Uh, one thing I mentioned is the rate of crisis around here is 29%.
That, uh, we actually have a curfew because we're including some labor that has been in place for the next few weeks.
See, Labor Day was, well, it was not in purchase time.
It was in the convention region, not Labor.
And for Labor, we have Labor in the Commonwealth, and the rest, we have 14 in Plains.
They're both in Plains, so it's much better than 14.
Okay, I have a chance to read the speeches, and I should have the cover note, and I sure should, but I'll let it cross.
This is important, this is important.
Okay.
Right.
But make it 14, including the rest of it.
See?
Maybe it can work on that.
Well, that's what I saw.
I saw this with your number.
I don't know if it was just mine.
Let me just make sure we mentioned our number.
14.
I'm 13.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye now.
Bye.

On November 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and David C. Hoopes met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:00 pm to 7:04 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 390-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 390-21

Date: November 2, 1972
Time: 7:00 pm -7:04 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with David C. Hoopes.

       Automobile

       The President’s schedule
            -Unknown woman

       Request for wine, cigar
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

                                                             Conversation No. 390-21 (cont’d)

          Unknown woman’s desk
              -Removal of item
                   -Order

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 7:00 pm and
7:02 pm.

[Conversation No. 390-21A]

[See Conversation No. 32-156]

[End of telephone conversation]

[Pause]

The President talked with John K. Andrews, Jr. between 7:02 pm and 7:04 pm.

[Conversation No. 390-21B]

[See Conversation No. 32-157]

Hoopes left at 7:03 pm.

[End of telephone conversation]
  • 032-157 7:02 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John K. Andrews, Jr. talked on the telephone from 7:02 pm to 7:04 pm.
  • 032-158 7:23 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II talked on the telephone from 7:23 pm to 7:24 pm.
  • 390-022 7:23 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:23 pm to 7:24 pm.
  • 390-023 7:24 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:24 pm and 8:06 pm.
  • 390-026 7:24 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:24 pm and 8:06 pm.
  • 032-159 8:03 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:03 am and 8:42 am.
  • 391-011 8:03 AM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:03 am and 8:07 am.
  • 391-012 8:03 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:03 am and 8:07 am.

Conversation 390-021, November 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/390-021 (accessed October 11, 2026).