Nixon, Ehrlichman & Bull on 1972 presidential campaign and Watergate scandal

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Good morning.

Well, there you go.

That's a good play.

Considering the media, I've heard a lot.

I've done more for radio than anybody since Andy.

You like it?

Yeah, I love it.

I think we're making a lot of radio news for that little morning show.

And the show report.

Yeah, we're doing it.

Right there on 570 station.

And it's all new stuff.

Makes a little bit of a day.

Well, that's a 10 minute show at 7.30 in the morning.

We write it down.

We write it down on a whole mutual network.

It was a good thing.

I don't know how I knew you, but I'm thinking about it.

Every day, Mark Evans was doing it.

Oh, that's the one.

Yeah.

And some of us would take segments for it.

They had Conley on the other day.

They'd run parts of the truck he made for the service.

period and stuff.

And bump them up and then talk about getting out of the boat and all that now.

What I was trying to say is what I told Ray that we're working on tonight.

First, I think that the, what we have done to date in the way of these things that we're talking sometimes, I probably would make this point.

that it's particularly simple.

You should make a sort of an estimate about that, uh, if Bernie gets a new technique, and the right technique, why would you candidate for president in these times, to present his views to the nation in a sober way, without him trying to take share of it, without having to, uh, to, to, to fight off it, while Senator McDonough doesn't have this problem?

The rally is finished.

uh, because of the, because of the lack of civility that's developed against people in the minority, the rally is finished as a means for making that kind of a, uh, a second one.

Why do you use that?

Well, you could use a, you could use an audience like a, uh, economic club or some asshole group like that, you know, we've done that before.

The best thing to do is to go weekly, or you could do a television.

A television is the hardest to fix.

And also, it can be, and it interferes with the other's prime time, which you don't want to do too much of.

But the best thing is radio.

Radio reaches a great number of people.

It's a hell of a route.

That's basically the smallest audience we've had is 300.

We've had it by six.

And it allows radio, even more than television, requires some degree of playing with a camera.

Radio, and I can go back to the FDR, the FDR is so often demonstrated, is the medium through which it's best suited to discuss a subject without emotion, without

uh, without pure lines, uh, very unstructurally, uh, and so forth.

You don't have to, you don't have to, if you're gussing it up, you don't have to do any of the comparison on the, on the, on the top.

Therefore, the radio address is defined.

And so, including the numbered race has been displayed as 10.

It was not included in the labor data.

I would include the labor data because it rounds out the cycle.

You see, we talked to the firemen and the ship talked to the labor.

The only one we haven't talked to has been a helicopter.

We covered that with another radio.

She would say, um, because what we'll really end up is a 12.

And it turns out that we do.

Because what I have in mind is doing no on Friday night.

And, uh, which really says, you know, she's good.

And then foreign policy or something.

I think Sunday is when I want that to rise, you know, there's a saying on the markets, the subject is greater interest.

And then, whatever gold we want to save for hunting, we will, of course, distribute it to the press in California at 9 o'clock in the morning Sunday.

But only in the radio.

Gold means to each their own.

10 golds?

Yeah.

That's what I have in mind.

Yeah.

I think you're right.

You know, that's why we deliver that.

by the time you get ready.

I plan to deliver, no, I'm gonna deliver live on the five o'clock Sunday.

But I'd like to have it.

If possible, I'd like to have it for distribution to the press on Sunday morning.

These are your deadlines for Sunday morning, because the press in order to write, the press has to write to each paper to Monday morning.

And also, we'll get that Sunday round, Sunday play all the time.

Now, when you get down to it, what do you have here?

Not playing the chill, no talking, no chill, you know what I mean?

Getting into the hard stuff, the issues, and discussing them in a rational, responsible way.

I think it's something you could, you could take not just one, but several people in China who have paid five hours to go to Iraq, to Iraq and stuff like that, but the others, too, you know, if they were interested in that, somebody would probably come in their mind, use their head, and people would not, that it's a, it's a way to go.

Because, you know, before we did the, uh, Remembrance of the Royal Peace, you might say, I had noted,

he'd written a piece that probably the president feels should go out and campaign for the U.S. business.

But we ought to make some major speeches and give that consideration to that.

I thought the best way to make those speeches, rather than going out and trying to shock the soft force through a rally thing, or rather than entering television, where we were on television a lot of times, I've been on television in ours,

And I just don't want to impose upon you the shortage of time in the workroom.

That's what you should do.

Okay.

Good.

Good thing.

Yeah.

And then you give them the, you give them the draw.

And I get them up on a little bucket.

All right.

I get to hear draw speeches.

I've been telling it this way, and this will tie it just beautifully.

People have been saying, where are we going in the second term?

I said, well, you just draw a line between the 6th grade Golden State of the Year and the President's 10 radio speeches, and then project that line right out through, and that'll tell you where you're going.

And so they said, gee, I have President's speeches.

Maybe I'd better get up and read them.

So, I had that today, I had the message we got out there.

Good.

And Hubbard said, I guess I'll have to go back and meet one of those species.

That's what he said.

Get them all together.

I would say, I'd get crazy.

You see, we've got the ones that are ready now, but we've got them in a, in a, in a form that is easy to read, right?

It's got them printed in blue, sort of a photo form, so I would, or something, I don't know, I'd have to get to work with a few other people.

Okay.

When they are finished, incidentally, I would include them.

And I suppose you ought to tell them to, to, to tell them to tell me.

Oh, what the hell was that?

Supposing we did that plus some of the pennies in the statements?

Well, the thing is, I think the basis of, you know, the numbers have a meaning for all speeches.

Why don't we do it without the television?

Don't just put the television on.

Everybody's coming in and reading them.

Whatever the number is, be sure it's not 13.

Now, I'm coming to the goal that I don't know what you were planning to put in, but I would strongly feel that we ought to get most of the gut issues.

I mean, by the gut issues, domestically,

the whole area

the whole area of the building, the whole area of the restoration, so we're going to get a lot of that in.

You see, if you start getting that to help educate

Transportation.

Farmer.

Better consider, I decline to think you're going to get 10 awful facts.

We have an outline.

No, I don't know.

I'll leave it to you.

Do you want to ask?

Well, let me try.

Let me just try.

It sounds very preliminary.

Sure is, of course, peace.

Sure.

America at peace and the world at peace.

Right.

Then, justice.

A healthy America.

A well-educated America.

A secure and prosperous America.

And that gets jobs.

Jobs, work, dignity.

Yeah.

Uh, dollar, uh, work, dollar earned by a dollar's worth.

You gave them the government spending, but it was, it was well-burdened in there.

Uh, fair taxes, which do not force the people to work most of their time in the government.

Now, we get into that, uh, I think in another, in another item right here.

A livable,

I said they're lovely, but it's not that.

It's probably a light.

I know it is.

I know it's a clean part of quality.

It's a nice way to use rooms for all to do life.

They're free from fear.

The rule of law is supreme.

Where violence and other places come in.

Well, I'll tell you where justice goes.

I'm recommending you regardless of race, religion, age, or sex, raise equal rights before the law and limited opportunities for realizing his or her close companion.

Then this one is free from fear of the rule of law supreme and the rigor of crime is declined by the president.

They need the drugs and all that crap, right?

Then a free and self-governed America.

Representative government, federal, state, local, a better instrument of the people's world, a better servant of the people's needs, a better protector of the people's liberties.

Then a pluralist open America, where government does not dominate, but liberates.

Then a great good article where people say, well, I should bet it might be more on the search than personally.

Uh, those are very general.

They're not the clinicians.

Well, maybe that's all right.

But, uh, we ended up putting those in.

What we thought we'd do, uh, those ten points are on three pages, and they're two and a half pages.

We'd expand each one of those paragraphs by maybe, uh, two more paragraphs to work at examples and, and, uh... We basically, each one of these has to be about 1,800 or 1,900 words, or 1,800 or 2,000 words.

Oh, 1,900, right.

Well, let's see if I can't work in some of these things that you mentioned here.

Well, I'm not sure about that.

I just know that part of the land, the welfare is a good issue now.

Mustard is a good issue.

Yeah.

Uh, I think I, uh, I think I don't believe it.

Fortis?

Huh?

Fortis?

Fortis is only 500 in some areas.

Huh?

I think it's primarily the Jews now, but that's about all.

Well, but that's a lot.

Okay.

To the extent that we can.

I think I was right, I was right.

and it doesn't mean much to anybody else except blacks because you haven't got anyone.

The blacks want the corvids.

The blacks want the corvids, the Jews hate them, and nobody else knows what in the world you're talking about.

I know what you're talking about.

Wait a second.

That's how we first got onto it, was the Max Fischer's guy over here.

And he came in and he said, we've got a hell of a thing here.

We're going to turn this copter around and see if we can get this guy paid.

And so we've got ACW just walking around and we have to really make sure they don't shoot the police.

That's my problem.

Our problem, John, is we have to move on to the fourth class.

We all know this truth.

We can never say it publicly.

Because you can't let people ever be there with us.

They may struggle with the lines, but the black lives matter.

And he just is going to be for a hell of a long time.

I mean, maybe in a thousand years, maybe there'll be about 300.

I don't know why.

But without that, he is just so wonderful.

I mean, he is behind everything.

There are some areas you look down and you see Larry Brown with the rug.

Or you hear some of their music.

Or you see some of their dancing.

And you see some of their warm hearts.

Good God, they've got a hell of a lot of points.

And Larry Brown has been visualized as probably a hell of a guy.

I watched him on television.

He's very classy.

But they've been spoiled for 10 years.

Yeah.

And it's just like a backward kid.

And the parents lean over backwards and they spoil.

And then, if that's a good draw, William Rasmussen got a call this morning.

He talks about why Sandy Davis Jr. did it.

And they said they'd be confused.

and why Blacks shouldn't support this administration.

And where it all comes down to, the bottom line is that they used to be inspired and they want to continue to be inspired.

And he's going to be inspired.

But really, that's how the four corners of the earth are.

That's right.

It's good for them to walk around.

They've got to learn to walk with themselves.

They're not buying it.

They're sure to buy it.

Yeah.

That's what we found out.

It takes more and more.

And they're quite accomplished.

They've got to take our money for gold.

They've got to hold for it.

They've got to take us for not giving up.

Now, that's a bottomless, bottomless pit.

Yet, you know, you've got to admire people like Bob Brown, who spent, yeah, on the crusher.

You know, Bob, his wife, you know, was on television yesterday.

with Anna Richardson and Marnie Klingens on today's show, they just purged our door.

They just found a curtain right there on the ground.

With their answers, you know, she was asking very nasty questions.

And they were smart as hell.

Mrs. Klingens did very well.

And she just won after a big turn.

And Sally Buck was very simple.

And she was very earnest.

And her eyes were very difficult.

But she came out of war.

sincere, and convinced, and she said, well, I'll do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do some wonderful things, and do

We've got to make sure.

Well, I would.

Oh, so many times.

I don't mean now.

That's right.

Well, anyway, that's... Well, I think you've got the right thing.

I, uh... We've got to rest.

I was thinking that... Maybe it's better just to keep it on.

But I just always think that a couple of times.

I mean, well, certainly not a crime thing.

No permissiveness, no permissive judges.

The era of permissiveness in the United States is finished.

But we don't need to start.

We've got to have respect for

respect for the men that wear the uniform, they expect to be people with a volunteer army, that's the way I think about it.

I don't want to throw it out.

Because when you're talking about an American in peace, it's got to be, it can only be a peace if we're strong.

Because otherwise it would be a peace of surrender, not a peace of mind.

The uh, the uh, I've got issues with quite a lot of issues.

I just think I'm in there for a while.

Oh, it's now coming to the health thing.

I don't want the health thing.

Just gassing around about everything we've done for health, which I don't know whether the greatest thing, but we've done a lot of positive things.

I don't mind the positive things, but...

As you know, I'm not keen on health.

I'm not about that.

I'm afraid you're getting into too many things.

I'm not watching.

Cancer.

Well, we can gash on about cancer.

And I would put in a line about my work with the Chinese doctors and the Russian doctors and all that kind of stuff.

That's very good stuff.

But on health, I want to totally reject that.

There's what we've got to talk about.

I've paid the program the greatest taxes by some millions of dollars.

The one thing that I think I would add is that I talked to the dentist and particularly proper dental care occurred.

young children, that is, that are improper, that is, that need to do that.

If those early years, if they are improper, they don't care, can it affect their health?

I suppose you could say their parents don't think we should be touching them.

That's the main one.

If they're not back there, if you've got a girl, of course it could be a disaster.

All right, I'm a man.

You know, we can't.

We can't.

They're all sensitive about that.

We've got to have these poor guys serve our girls.

Okay.

So we, see the debtors aren't for that.

They want a program to help them.

I have talked to the heads of debtors.

It's all over the cold.

So we can be positive for the debtors.

Well, good.

That's what you care about.

Yeah.

That's what you care about.

That's what you want.

Well, that's what our people want to do.

Our people want to rock and roll in the state.

If they've got a community action plan, there's a place for content.

There's a place for time, yeah.

Right?

I've heard that.

They're trying to build it.

Well, I'd like to hear what any of these places are trying to start.

They have pictures they can generate.

Marvelous.

Would that be a down-to-earth?

Yeah, good.

No.

I think we have a pretty good outline.

You know, I agree.

That's big enough to me.

You can tell Reddy, my bridey, whatever.

Reddy, we're done.

I know Red.

I don't really care about the style of the band.

I mean, I'm not going to do it.

I just have to read it.

There you go.

Everybody, that's just another one of those that goes by.

Sure.

And by the time it gets ready, it's good enough.

And I've delivered them.

You see, if I started spending a lot of time on these, it wouldn't be worth it.

It wouldn't be worth it growing them.

I do a little, and I cast around a little bit of sugar.

If they come through, the writers now are getting more right to them.

The way I say it now, they're written better now.

I think, actually, they would be quite well.

I think that's some very good stuff.

I don't know what all of this is going to do.

I think this is probably going to go with this one.

Until Friday, I'll probably have to cut that one.

Friday, I'll have to report it.

I'll try to do the help.

I'll have to do it.

Saturday, I'll have to report it.

I'll have to do it.

The other one I will actually deliver.

I've got to have it ready to press early.

So that is what you could do on that.

What you could do is you can't get the, you can't go all ready by Monday morning.

I don't know what I meant.

If you have any problems, John, I think the editing can be done later just so you get the text that we've delivered.

There's no reason at all why we're saying that.

I think you are also a spot of the time.

I feel proud today that I felt what I needed to do right.

I think the fact of the matter, rather than having to go around and get the double standard, but mainly the fighters did not use the double standard, they did wear the one or two.

The fact is,

What they all

Well, how is that different from anything that's done in any campaign?

It's probably going to be information.

Well, Conway's made that point.

They're going to get information.

And I wonder if the approach there is to say, all right, let's talk about this.

You tell me about it.

Right.

That happened.

Right.

And then let me respond to it.

Right.

Because he's going to be a hard person to come up with.

Right, of course.

Of course, because basically, whatever they tried to do, they didn't succeed.

That's what I said.

They'd act around about all that.

They've always done the campaign.

But what about also, you said, how is it that the other side of the country, they've ever held a campaign where, as far as the president and his servants and the vice president were concerned, there was never been any conflict.

Where it was all on the issues.

Where we did take the bait.

We did flash back.

That's quite true.

The timing of our coming plane is going to follow the plane.

I want to give you some thought.

We just started talking about this a little bit this morning.

You're planning to do it for the election?

No.

My point was that it is going to appear very same.

The people who raised the curtain after the election said, okay, we've got our hair in the barn, now we're going to come clean.

Your point is what?

Well, I just don't know quite how I handle it.

The problem that I have, of course, is that I will have to have some sort of a press conference.

It's not a meeting that I'm going to wait.

Well, here's one thing that occurred to me.

I can't go out there until it is coming.

I have not addressed myself to this in a press conference.

Here's one thing that occurred to me.

Supposing that you were to say, or were to be said that an investigation, an intensive investigation has been going on with regard to all of the tape and other allegations on both sides.

We have not said it as an internal investigation.

We have not said anything to anybody about it because it would have immediately become a focal point.

and effective investigation has to be conducted in practice.

As soon as that investigation is completed, the president wants the results of the investigation to be made public.

Okay.

then that sets the stage for somebody, Dean or maybe somebody, to then to make ourselves available, say, okay, here's where we found that.

Chapin did this and this, Segretti did it correctly, did this and this, have an affidavit, matter of fact, we took an affidavit from Segretti, so that would tie in.

and be able to say, look, there wasn't anything served by letting it be known that there was a White House investigation that was going on, because all that would have happened is everybody's phone would have been on all night, and it would have been much harder for us to deduce the truth.

Now, we'll give you the results of that investigation.

The president's position is to just call it a day.

If any wrongs have been done, then they should write it, and we'll call it a day.

It's the only problem.

Now, that we don't want.

The only person that we've really got at this point will be a leader.

Probably.

I don't want to destroy him.

I understand.

All of us, fortunately, are one step away.

Well, take him into this position.

Take and recruit this guy.

And basically cut him loose.

Did not program him.

We can document potatoes out of the country a lot of the time and we can identify a lot of the times and so on and so forth.

So I think we can, I think we can explotate chasers by and large.

Compact, we may have some problems there.

Or we may have to make some disclosures.

Incidentally, they settled the comments on the lawsuit a little while ago.

They have to make disclosure of certain contributions up to March, but not the heavy ones.

I don't know, why did you try to come across something like that?

It was just here today.

About what?

That there are lawsuits on the buyers.

The boys were very smart.

They got a couple of common cause members to intervene and serve on the buyers' defense.

They challenged the right of the government and common cause to give the group to act in this way, to sue a campaign.

Well, that affects their tax effect.

So, we gave a wave of the Walter Myers defense in consideration

of the dismissal of the lawsuit as in this particular period, I don't want to put this out, but then I continue as well, what they've got to force our program as to what they're going to say down there, which is that we get out of the business in a campaign and get these guys off our backs, and that's what they did, and that's what they basically did, and so forth.

But it's not supposed to be true.

It's not supposed to be true.

It's a great victory for the American citizens.

What do they say about it?

It's a background, a weird background saying that it helped the virus.

But it was not positive, but we ought to disclose the rest.

Oh, well.

Now, from March on, it has been set aside.

We litigated that for the first year.

Oh, yeah.

And, uh, there's been an infection.

And I think there's been an infection.

It's been eight times, of course.

We're scared.

We have to do it.

IRS.

We have to do it.

And six of the seven members of their litigation committee are Liberal Democrats.

That's now out of the way for the moment.

If you think well of this idea, you might give us some thought.

But it seems to me that the investigation group

In the White House, it consists of me, Dick Moore, who isn't a friend, and who has been in on this right from the beginning, and me, of course, and then the three of us, to make ourselves available as a panel, or I could, or Dick could, or whatever you, and maybe about the 1st of December, or sooner, that's the second time we've been there, by the way.

We must get it out of the way before we can get it through here.

That's the only way.

We must also remember that it's a dark place.

I don't want to talk about the poor people, I don't want to talk about the poor people, I don't want to talk about the poor people.

I don't want to talk about the poor people.

On the other hand,

On the other hand, they aren't going to have the urge to do that.

I think a lot of the streets will go on to do that.

But they say, just don't go into this.

I think we've got to control the public.

I'm sure everybody, political groups, it's possible to set up a post in this.

What was the greatest thought about doing something like that?

What happened?

That's the next question.

Well, for Christ's sake, they burned the car, yeah, there were some of these bad people, the government office in there, they were doing this and that, yeah.

The whole thing was a rain, 7500, shall we burn, sorry.

We were horrible people.

We had to leave, you know, we had to leave, you know, we had to leave, and so forth.

I don't know.

But, uh, that's the kind of thing.

Well, I heard it's a broken paper.

I didn't post it.

I did all of it, but I didn't post it.

Well,

I will take that question.

I think what I would do that would be

I don't want to get one out.

Sure, sure.

Well, what do you think?

I'd like to think about this a little more.

I know what you're asking, but let me say what I would like to do.

If you could get out of the way, uh, the, what's the hell, press conference for, is the saddest thing that's ever happened.

So why not take about eight guys, uh, and do it on that day, and say, now look, I'm not going to have a press conference for a month, because if I do, you're going to have to do it on a regular basis.

I'm going to have to explain, I don't even know why we have that press conference.

Do not follow what you're saying.

We have to be prepared in the sense of negotiations.

I didn't have one before China.

I didn't have one before Russia.

I didn't have one before China.

But I do it now.

To the extent that I can, I will.

I've never really actually tried otherwise.

Don't worry.

It's going to happen.

We're going to play it hard.

Now, my own view is that I will have a considerable number, probably on a fairly regular basis in the second term, for our own acres, because it's a way to feed the jackals.

And I'll use the office press conference in order to be able to tell them what's going on.

I can just simply say that.

I'll give it to him, I'll say this is, I'll see what the point, I'll say, now this is for.

This is for, this is an overreaction.

I said I cannot have anything, I don't want anything in comments, but if you can ask me about what's going to happen in the second round, I will not talk about it.

I mean, I'm not even going to ask you about my views about the election.

I said I can't.

But still, before I, before I return this to my man, I don't want anything to say about what I can do about that.

I can't do it, but I should just go with my PMQ, um, and then put everything in that category.

I think doing it Saturday is wrong.

I think doing it Saturday is disastrous.

I'll say, well, after the election, we're going to have better news.

Well, one thing, keep in mind, these vaccines do not close until after the election.

They won't close till next morning.

And I said, no, I'll tell you what I'm going to do.

I said, if I could sit it down, that's better than let the goddamn thing be hanging over in Rock Creek.

I said, now look, I'll say this, and I'll say this, and I'll say this, and I'll say this, and I'll say this, and I'll say this, and I'll say this, and I'll say this, and I'll say this,

I said, uh, I trust you all the same.

I said, look, you're, you're a proud citizen.

You did all of this.

I said, thank you.

I don't think there's anything we can do about it.

I can say this, what I mean is that the purpose of the office is like, I don't know what you guys think, I don't know what you guys think.

That's where he was going to have him treated.

He was running around.

He was vicious.

He was a killer.

He was a killer while he was in the office.

I haven't heard from him in years.

I've had countless distress calls to the state of Washington right now.

Apparently, they had him.

They didn't want to hear about that.

Well, I'm sure that's the purpose of all of that as well.

So it's not bad at all.

It's very clear.

They don't know this.

They don't take it seriously.

If it's just for you to make a phone call, I think that would be a good thing.

I think that would be a good thing.

I could call it after the, uh, after the television that tomorrow night, what I was thinking, what I did with the power, is to have all of this new person working together and, uh, and after the television tomorrow night, he'd be doing it about five times, probably about two times, and I'd whack him.

That's right.

Yeah, I will call it.

I want you to know I'm running it for you.

I got it upstairs.

I'll send you a memo on that so that you can get it.

I'm going to make some calls, you know, we have this.

I'm going to make those signs.

That's the problem.

The problem is the best way to do something.

You don't have to handle it one way or another.

And I think the best way to do it is to say it in person.

By God, it was because I said I did this.

I didn't do that.

awful while we've been doing it.

I know I'm scared and so forth.

I want to get to the bottom.

So I'm going to get back to the fiction.

And pre-election is not the time to try.

Your son's going to grow up.

So we're going to help build it for you.

But it isn't fair to the men involved.

They're doing it to prove that.

Now we're going to have to see the situation.

And let's work around it.

I don't think we're both going to be able to do that.

I think we're dying.

They were reaching, reaching, reaching, and they probably had a source.

I know what they were doing.

They were managing everybody in town.

So...

My hunch is, I don't think I've told you, but the Hillary reporter, Kay Grant, is making food advice to some shit.

And Hillary listens to it.

Well, the point is, that to know she had all the barbecue and making noise about it.

Anyway, he said, well, we'll have to do it.

He was a fool.

No, sir.

No way.

They had drawn him, sir.

You know, there's power in the crowd.

I'll never forget this man's call.

I would be very disappointed to see us now forgive and forget.

Right.

I would love to see you fire the silver bullets.

We've got to come up with a deal.

Well, here's a deal.

But John O'Donnell... John O'Donnell.

How will we fire a silver bullet at the post without getting them to say, we're taking the FCC and trying to... Well, there is this man.

I think you could...

I think you could get away with it.

Just let it go.

This is what a person wants.

Being.

And you're going to have to do it.

You've got to send it back over there and do it.

because it would get some more violence on that connection.

But where Johnson goes off, I think we're going to do a fight where he gets the team there, and probably they're going to turn on him.

Oh, wait a minute.

Getting back to the other thing, what did you hear about the crew?

Not going to tell me that that is so.

Yeah.

Well, he's a hater.

He's a dead artist.

And he's also out to make a good anchor himself as the artist number one editor.

And he's been rooting for South America.

There are people that work with him that are helping him out.

They're gracious to all kinds of people.

And so the entire RV is now all his work.

And I think this is very much a personal thing.

As soon as the larvae occur, we know that that became a cause for what?

They stayed out of the office.

They had teams all over the country.

And they had teams that stayed ahead of them.

You know, this is a tragedy of our people.

I don't know.

He did.

He stood there.

Well, we're going to look for him, and I can find him, too.

I mean, because in the main department, he did hire some people.

And I think these guys were off on a goddamn escapade.

Because the main fight isn't back there yet.

It wasn't in the name of Christ that they thought they were going to accomplish.

Right by the name.

I mean, they were right at that time.

So it was a little bit different from what you think it is.

I mean, God, here, I think that's something to do with it.

It was, to me, embarrassing because it was so thoughtful.

And that these people, that's why all these people were struck down for you.

They had tied it to us as an insult to our culture.

That's what I would say.

We don't question things in our morality.

That's what we've had to do.

We don't like these color-curses.

That's good progress.

We know that there are things in our morality that are supposed to be looked at dumb.

I don't think anybody would know anything about my actual activity.

I've heard that you're not doing that just for the action.

I'm worried about that.

Well, yeah, I don't know.

It's just a part of the cool.

I had a business partner.

I still walk with him a lot.

I don't see why he wouldn't do it.

I mean, I don't know.

I'm starting to know his future, I guess.

He's got a very good partner over here.

I mean, I wouldn't do it if he didn't have a table.

He's very cool.

He's got a house.

Thank you.

Nixon, Ehrlichman & Bull on 1972 presidential campaign and Watergate scandal

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