Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 391 › Conversation 391-021

Nixon & Haldeman on Thomas B. McCabe and Margaret Chase Smith

Friday, November 3, 1972 · 9:00 AM–9:12 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 15 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation391-021 on Tape 391StartFriday, November 3, 1972 at 9:00 AMEndFriday, November 3, 1972 at 9:12 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 391-021 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman met to discuss various administrative tasks, including the President recording gratitude messages for campaign supporters like Thomas B. McCabe and addressing health policy. The conversation also touched upon the President's upcoming phone calls, including one to Margaret Chase Smith. These interactions focused on the President's outreach efforts and the preparation of materials for his official agenda.

  • H. R. Haldeman
  • Thomas B. McCabe
  • Margaret Chase Smith
  • Health policy
  • Campaign supporters

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It is possible to use the best products of all types of equipment and other types of equipment.
We're going to get the right answer to that question.
We're going to get the right answer to that question.
We're going to get the right answer to that question.
I think all of these are real children that are going to be in this format.
Thank you.
and what I have to do is start talking about how I'm going to plan for the future.
I'm trying to find what I'm going to do.
I want to be able to go through with it.
And at this point, it's not that I'm not going to do it.
It's only that I'm going to do it.
It's not that I'm going to do it.
I didn't think that it would be this hard.
I didn't know what I was going to do.
I'm not going to do it.
We meet several times a month, once a year, in the same year that I was on the bus.
I have both been on the bus, most times in the program, too.
We're in Florida, in New York, in San Francisco, Florida.
In fact, we've been to all kinds of places in the United States.
We're there now, too.
Last year, I was on the bus, and I was on the bus.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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This program is brought to you by
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Manage to work, practice, and do the work.
Manage to run, manage all the kids, and manage all the kids, and all the kids.
Manage to manage all the time, and change the world.
Manage to run, encourage, and do the work.
Manage to run all the time, and manage the kids all the time.
Our program is designed for all.
Manage to run, manage all the kids.
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I'm not sure if the quality of the video is going to be as good as it is today.
I'm very concerned about the quality of the video.
I'm not sure if the quality of the video is going to be as good as it is today.
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I don't know.
But it also encouraged my students to come out and talk to their parents about it.
I don't think that our hospitals are going to work.
Our health care is going to have to do with it.
We have to take all benefits of it.
We don't need to ever have to say we're going to have to pay for it.
This means that we're going to have to live with it.
That's what we need to do.
We've got to do it.
We've got to do it.
We've got to do it.
I think it's a long road.
So, I think that's what I want to do.
That's a great time to do what I want to do.
I want to do what I want to do.
I want to do what I want to do.
That is an example of a good time.
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All right.
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Let me know if you have any questions.
I appreciate your time.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
All the work.
Today, I'm going to be calling her mom.
I'm going to be calling her dad.
I'm going to be calling her mom.
I'm going to be calling her dad.
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I don't follow it yet, but it's going to be worth it.
Okay, thank you.
Okay.
Please leave.
It's not that dangerous.
Okay, thank you so much.

NARA Description

On November 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:00 am and 9:12 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 391-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 391-21

Date: November 3, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:00 am and 9:12 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President resumed recording an audio message for Thomas B. McCabe.

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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       McCabe’s campaign
           -The President’s gratitude to supporters
                 -Hard work

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time after 9:00 am.

       The President’s telephone calls
            -Margaret Chase Smith

The President recorded an audio message on health policy.

       [See Public Papers of the Presidents, Richard M. Nixon, 1972, pages 1089-1093]

       The President’s telephone calls
            -Materials

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 9:12 am.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 391-021, November 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/391-021 (accessed September 28, 2026).