{"conversationCode":"394-002","tapeNumber":394,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-394-002","startDateTime":"1973-01-05T16:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-05T17:02:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Jan-1973","startTime":"11:53 AM","endDate":"5-Jan-1973","endTime":"12:02 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:53 am and 12:02 pm. 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(“Pat”) Nixon\n\f                                                        -2-\n\n                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                                             Conversation No. 394-2 (cont’d)\n\n                      -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n                      -Meeting with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n                      -Rose Mary Woods\n                -Possible meeting with Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope\n                      -Recommendation\n                      -January 20, 1973 [1973 Inauguration]\n                      -David N. Parker\n                      -US Organization [USO] medal\n                             -Volunteers, overseas, armed forces\n                             -Shows\n                      -Previous meeting\n                      -Trip to Camp David\n                      -Congressional relations\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n        The President’s Birthday\n             -White House staff involvement\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n[BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1]\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 28s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:02 pm.\n\f                                              -3-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["394-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"394-001","nextCode":"394-003","transcript":[{"start":0.5,"end":4.95,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.93,"end":28.03,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.05,"end":28.15,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.17,"end":28.27,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.68,"end":54.73,"text":"I don't know if that's going to work, but that's a perfect time."},{"start":54.75,"end":55.69,"text":"Let's get another version of this."},{"start":59.78,"end":82.59,"text":"I can't, I can't see anybody."},{"start":93.55,"end":105.25,"text":"What can you do?"},{"start":112.56,"end":115.61,"text":"I just can't do it."},{"start":115.63,"end":116.25,"text":"He was sitting right behind me."},{"start":116.27,"end":116.73,"text":"He asked me a question."},{"start":116.75,"end":117.23,"text":"I said, what can you do?"},{"start":117.25,"end":117.73,"text":"I said, what can you do?"},{"start":117.75,"end":118.23,"text":"I said, what can you do?"},{"start":118.25,"end":120.45,"text":"I said, what can you do?"},{"start":121.28,"end":126.72,"text":"No, but we're not gonna..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate his upcoming schedule and travel arrangements. The discussion focused on logistics for a planned trip to Camp David with family members and staff, as well as the potential for a meeting with Bob Hope regarding a USO award. 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