{"conversationCode":"394-005","tapeNumber":394,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-394-005","startDateTime":"1973-01-05T17:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-05T17:36:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Jan-1973","startTime":"12:02 PM","endDate":"5-Jan-1973","endTime":"12:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On January 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:36 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 394-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 394-5\n\nDate: January 5, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 12:02 pm and 12:36 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 35-93]","filename":["394-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"394-004","nextCode":"394-006","transcript":[{"start":0.28,"end":5.38,"text":"We're going to have to try to consider this."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with a White House operator regarding the logistical management of his telecommunications. The discussion focused on the necessity of reviewing and potentially revising current operating procedures. No further substantive details were recorded, leaving the specific nature of the desired changes to the communication system unelaborated.","topics":["White House communications","telecommunications","operational procedures","White House switchboard"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:02:53.698Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-communications","telecommunications","operational-procedures","white-house-switchboard"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"394-005.mp3","bytes":292792,"durationSec":12.07,"bitrate":194116,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/394-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/394-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/394/conversation-394-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}