{"conversationCode":"395-007","tapeNumber":395,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-395-007","startDateTime":"1973-01-10T20:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-10T20:41:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Jan-1973","startTime":"3:35 PM","endDate":"10-Jan-1973","endTime":"3:41 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Laird, Melvin R.;","description":"On January 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Melvin R. Laird met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:35 pm and 3:41 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 395-007 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 395-7\n\nDate: January 10, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:35 pm and 3:41 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n       Call to Melvin R. Laird [?]\n             -Cancellation","filename":["395-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Laird, Melvin R."],"prevCode":"395-006","nextCode":"395-008","transcript":[{"start":0.39,"end":6.96,"text":"Uh, there he is."},{"start":6.98,"end":8.2,"text":"I don't know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator in an attempt to reach Secretary of Defense Melvin R. Laird. The conversation was intended to facilitate a direct communication between the two officials. Ultimately, the attempt to connect with Laird proved unsuccessful and the call was canceled.","topics":["Melvin R. Laird","Communication logistics","White House operations","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:05:04.645Z"},"topicSlugs":["melvin-r-laird","communication-logistics","white-house-operations","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"395-007.mp3","bytes":317249,"durationSec":13.07,"bitrate":194234,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/395-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/395-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/395/conversation-395-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}