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Start Date: 12-Jan-1973 9:23 AM

End Date: 12-Jan-1973 10:30 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Woods, Rose Mary

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

395-025.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:23 am and 10:30 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 395-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 395-25

Date: January 12, 1973
Time: Unknown between 9:23 am and 10:30 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

       Haldeman

       Henry A. Kissinger

       White House
            -US Army
            -West Wing
            -East Wing staff

       National Football League [NFL]

       The President's schedule
            -Kissinger
            -Florida
            -Timing
            -Kissinger's schedule
                  -Effect
            -Meetings
            -Return from Florida
            -Peoples Republic of China [PRC] acrobats
                  -Press coverage
            -Kissinger
                  -House in Florida
            -Effect of others' schedules
                  -Kissinger
                  -Cabinet
                  -William P. Rogers
                  -Press

       Vietnam settlement
            -Announcements
                                      -27-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Dec.-09)

                                                      Conversation No. 395-25 (cont’d)

           -Conversation with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
           -Bombing halt
           -Timing
           -Haig trip
     -Briefings
           -Col. Richard T. Kennedy
           -Haig
           -Kennedy
                 -Content of agreement
                 -Signing
                 -Timing
                 -Kissinger’s meeting with the President
                 -Rogers
                 -Laird
           -Kissinger
                 -Briefing for Charles H. Percy
                 -Rogers
     -Announcements
           -Bombing halt
           -Haig’s trip
                 -Saigon
           -The President’s decision
           -Further public statements

The President's schedule in Florida
     -Telephone calls
           -Rogers
           -Laird
           -Ziegler’s response
           -Access to the President
           -Spiro T. Agnew
     -Haig
           -Schedule

Vietnam settlement
     -Announcement
           -Ellsworth F. Bunker
           -Content
           -Timing
           -Kennedy
                                 -28-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. Dec.-09)

                                                  Conversation No. 395-25 (cont’d)

      -Ziegler
      -1973 Inauguration
      -Congress
      -Content
             -Haig’s schedule
             -Kissinger’s trip to Paris
             -The President’s briefing for Congress
      -Kissinger
      -Nguyen Van Thieu
      -Content
             -Kissinger’s trip to Paris
                   -Purpose
             -Questions
             -Thieu’s actions
             -Final agreement
                   -Kissinger
      -Thieu’s actions
             -Effect on announcement
             -Timing
      -Bunker
      -Thieu
             -Kissinger
             -Signing
             -North Vietnamese
      -Announcement
             -Ziegler
-Press relations
      -Government of South Vietnam
      -Cease-fire
      -Prisoners of War [POWs]
      -Congress
-Thieu’s response
-The President’s response
-Timing
-Report to Congress
-Image of the administration
-Announcement
      -Timing
      -1973 Inauguration
      -New York Times, Washington Post
                                      -29-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Dec.-09)

                                                   Conversation No. 395-25 (cont’d)

     -Press relations
            -Compared to Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty Agreement [SALT]
            -Compared to 1972 Moscow Summit
            -John V. Scali
            -Hugh S. Sidey [?]
            -[Arnold] Eric Sevareid
            -Robert Pierpoint
            -John W. Chancellor
            -Murrey Marder
            -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
            -Ziegler's expectations
            -Past experience
            -Scali
            -Response to bombing
                  -Chancellor
                  -Howard K. Smith
                  -Richard Wilson
                  -Story on bombing halt
                        -Scali, Wilson
           -White House
           -Signals

The President's schedule
     -Florida Trip
     -Ziegler's statement
           -Work on 1973 Inauguration
           -State of the Union
           -Budget
           -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
           -The President’s birthday

Vietnam settlement
     -Paris talks
           -Kissinger
     -Thieu [?]
     -Congress [?]
     -Bombing
           -Public opinion
                  -Right-wing
                  -Polls
                                                -30-

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Dec.-09)

                                                              Conversation No. 395-25 (cont’d)

             -Press relations
                   -The President's briefing of Congressional leaders
                   -Agreement
                          -Public statement
                                -The President's objective
                                -Congress

       Congressional relations
            -George P. Shultz
            -Responsibility
            -Wage and price controls
            -Corporation
            -Shultz

Ziegler left at 10:00 am.

       Press relations
             -Need for staff members' secrecy
                    -Wives, children, secretaries, aids
             -Stephen B. Bull
             -Alexander P. Butterfield
             -Leaks
             -White House staff [?]
                    -Concern

       Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
            -L. Patrick Gray [?]
            -Cartha Deloach
            -Director
                  -J. Edgar Hoover
                  -The President's term
                         -Survival
                  -Requirements
                  -Mitchell
                  -Political affiliation
                  -Gray
                  -Requirements
                  -Mitchell, John B. Connally
            -Dwayne Andreas
            -Lyndon B. Johnson
                                          -31-

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Dec.-09)

                                                          Conversation No. 395-25 (cont’d)

            -Blackmail
            -Deloach
                 -Bugging
            -Mitchell

      Watergate
           -John J. Sirica
                  -Sentencing
                  -Bail for burglars
                        -Mitchell's Response
           -E. Howard Hunt
                  -Conduct
                  -Implication of others
           -Sirica
                  -Instructions to grand jury
                  -Evidence at trail
           -Democratic Party National headquarters
           -1972 campaign
           -Justice Department
                  -American Bar Association [?]
                  -Responsibilities

      Second term reorganization
           -Red Cross
           -Postal Rate Commission
                 -Gordon L. Allott
           -1972 campaign
                 -George S. McGovern
           -Jack Miller

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods[?] at an unknown time between 10:00 am and
10:30 am.

[Conversation No. 395-25A]

      The President's schedule
           -Meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

      Item to be delivered
                                             -32-

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Dec.-09)

                                                            Conversation No. 395-25 (cont’d)


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       Ties
              -Courier

[End of telephone conversation]

              -Size
              -Style

[End of segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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       The President's schedule

       Gift calendar
             -Purpose
             -Press
             -Message

The President left at an unknown time before 10:30 am.