{"conversationCode":"397-001","tapeNumber":397,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-397-001","startDateTime":"1973-01-19T13:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-19T13:43:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:38 AM","endDate":"19-Jan-1973","endTime":"8:43 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On January 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:38 am to 8:43 am. 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Bull.\n\n       President's schedule\n             -Inaugural activities\n                    -Symphonic concert\n                         -Guests in Presidential box\n                         -Possible remarks by President\n                                -Cast party\n                                -Performers on stage\n                                -Public Broadcasting System coverage\n\nAn unknown man entered at an unknown time after 8:38 am.\n\n                        -John A. Scali [?]\n\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 8:43 am.\n\n                         -Possible remarks by President\n                         -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n             -William F. (“Billy”) Graham\n             -Eisaku Sato\n             -Prayer breakfast\n                   -Date\n             -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin\n             -Prayer breakfast\n             -Cabinet\n             -Church service\n                   -Rabbi Edward Magnin\n                   -Archbishop Joseph Bernardin\n                   -Receiving line\n                         -Mrs. Nixon\n                         -Photograph\n\f                                             -2-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                         Conversation No. 397-1 (cont’d)\n\n                   -Graham\n                   -Blue Room\n              -Barber\n              -Henry A. Kissinger\n                   -Location\n\nBull left at 8:43 am.","filename":["397-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"396-010","nextCode":"397-002","transcript":[{"start":0.66,"end":19.18,"text":"It's one of the words that I've had quite a few times in some time, and it's a criticism that a lot of people have had fun with, and it's the same thing."},{"start":19.2,"end":19.79,"text":"I want you to be aware of it."},{"start":19.8,"end":20.49,"text":"I'll let you take those two hours."},{"start":20.51,"end":20.71,"text":"That's it."},{"start":40.45,"end":67.72,"text":"Well, I understand the doubt."},{"start":72.49,"end":84.69,"text":"There are really two parts to this."},{"start":84.71,"end":85.61,"text":"You would not go down on the first two parts."},{"start":85.63,"end":86.17,"text":"They're having a cast part."},{"start":86.19,"end":86.33,"text":"I know."},{"start":86.36,"end":87.14,"text":"What would you do with the second part?"},{"start":87.16,"end":87.72,"text":"That's what I was wondering."},{"start":136.01,"end":149.89,"text":"Really, that is a necessary thing."},{"start":149.91,"end":150.51,"text":"A lot of the fans are anxious."},{"start":150.53,"end":152.25,"text":"For a lot of shots, when we get into the 70s, you know, you feel how things are going."},{"start":152.27,"end":153.82,"text":"You also feel like you're going to have to, like, get in this company and go."},{"start":231.03,"end":236.19,"text":"You know, you tell us."},{"start":236.21,"end":236.59,"text":"Well, I'll see you."},{"start":261.75,"end":283.74,"text":"We'll work it out."},{"start":285.42,"end":298.98,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":310.8,"end":336.35,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":342.95,"end":355.73,"text":"... ... ... ... ..."},{"start":373.76,"end":400.76,"text":"Okay."},{"start":400.78,"end":400.88,"text":"Okay."},{"start":412.05,"end":422.85,"text":"Dr. Kissinger, he's a great, he's a, I think, he's a great, he's a great, he's a great,"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull and an unidentified individual, likely John A. Scali, to finalize logistical details regarding his upcoming second inauguration. The discussion focused on scheduling public appearances, including a symphonic concert and prayer breakfast, as well as managing guest lists and reception duties for the First Lady and other high-profile attendees. 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