{"conversationCode":"397-007","tapeNumber":397,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-397-007","startDateTime":"1973-01-19T15:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-19T16:25:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Jan-1973","startTime":"10:55 AM","endDate":"19-Jan-1973","endTime":"11:25 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Price, Raymond K., Jr.; Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On January 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Raymond K. Price, Jr., and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 11:25 am. 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Ziegler\n\nZiegler entered at 11:07 am.\n\n       1973 Inauguration\n            -Photographic coverage\n                  -Film, still pictures\n            -Press relations\n            -President's Inaugural speech\n                  -Advance copies\n                         -Possible revisions\n                         -Timing\n                         -Distribution\n                         -Joseph W. Alsop\n                         -Richard (“Dick”) Wilson\n                         -Press coverage\n                         -Afternoon newspapers\n                  -Length, subject\n                  -Wilson\n                  -Ziegler's previous statements\n\f                                               -11-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 397-7 (cont’d)\n\n       Press relations [?]\n             -President’s supposition\n\n       Los Angeles Dodgers’ baseball game [?]\n            -Performance\n\n       Dwight D. Eisenhower\n           -Snobs\n           -Speaking out\n\n       Whittier College football coaches\n            -George Allen\n            -Allen's successor\n            -Allen's predecessor\n            -Don Coryell\n                  -Allen's successor\n                  -Record\n                  -San Diego State\n                  -St. Louis Cardinals\n            -Record\n\nZiegler and Price left at 11:25 am.","filename":["397-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Price, Raymond K., Jr.","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"397-006","nextCode":"397-008","transcript":[{"start":4.71,"end":33.62,"text":"... ... ... ..."},{"start":35.13,"end":62.66,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":62.67,"end":62.77,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":70.27,"end":91.38,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":100.45,"end":125.89,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":133.55,"end":159.12,"text":"... ... ... ... ... ..."},{"start":161.71,"end":190.81,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":192.37,"end":212.09,"text":"... ... ... ... ..."},{"start":224.38,"end":254.24,"text":"I'm not opposing that we give the speech out to all of the press, but I think when you're giving it to the lawyers, I think it's important to give it to the lawyers."},{"start":254.93,"end":283.88,"text":"."},{"start":283.9,"end":283.92,"text":"."},{"start":283.94,"end":283.96,"text":"."},{"start":284.54,"end":309.81,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":353.34,"end":377.97,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":406.45,"end":436.24,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":444.81,"end":471.69,"text":"Yes."},{"start":481.76,"end":492.03,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":492.05,"end":492.31,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":507.77,"end":530.87,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":542.36,"end":557.61,"text":"See, all he wants is to get a sense of emotion."},{"start":557.63,"end":558.51,"text":"Well, I'm not going to give him any of that."},{"start":558.53,"end":558.81,"text":"He's a killer."},{"start":558.83,"end":559.11,"text":"He's a killer."},{"start":559.13,"end":559.41,"text":"He's a killer."},{"start":559.43,"end":559.71,"text":"He's a killer."},{"start":573.85,"end":591.54,"text":"Okay, that's all I had."},{"start":612.48,"end":619.26,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":671.03,"end":699.55,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":708.53,"end":714.1,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":747.32,"end":773.85,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":791.52,"end":814.93,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":843.05,"end":865.77,"text":"He has to eat."},{"start":865.79,"end":866.08,"text":"He has to eat."},{"start":866.1,"end":866.38,"text":"He has to sit."},{"start":866.4,"end":866.68,"text":"He has to eat."},{"start":866.7,"end":866.98,"text":"He has to eat."},{"start":867,"end":867.28,"text":"He has to eat."},{"start":867.3,"end":867.58,"text":"He has to eat."},{"start":877.99,"end":906.58,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":912.06,"end":929.93,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with advisors Raymond K. Price, Jr. and Ronald L. Ziegler to finalize logistical preparations for his upcoming 1973 second inauguration. The discussion focused primarily on the strategic timing, distribution, and media management of the President's inaugural address, including vetting which journalists and commentators should receive advance copies. The participants also touched on peripheral topics ranging from professional football coaching records to historical comparisons regarding former President Eisenhower.","topics":["1973 Inauguration","Presidential speechwriting","Press relations","White House media strategy","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:08:38.846Z"},"topicSlugs":["1973-inauguration","presidential-speechwriting","press-relations","white-house-media-strategy","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":942,"audioFiles":[{"file":"397-007.mp3","bytes":22613076,"durationSec":942.07,"bitrate":192029,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:33.265Z","transcriptGapSeconds":546,"transcriptGapShare":0.58,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/397-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/397-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/397/conversation-397-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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