{"conversationCode":"398-002","tapeNumber":398,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-398-002","startDateTime":"1973-01-19T21:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-19T21:12:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Jan-1973","startTime":"4:12 PM","endDate":"19-Jan-1973","endTime":"4:12 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On January 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 4:12 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 398-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 398-2\n\nDate: January 19, 1973\nTime: 4:12 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 36-7]","filename":["398-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"398-001","nextCode":"398-003","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":9.34,"text":"Uh, would you, uh, ask Mr. Ziggler to go to the home of the building?"},{"start":9.36,"end":10.65,"text":"And if he can't come, let him go to the last one of those rooms."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to locate Press Secretary Ron Ziegler and direct him to the Executive Office Building. The President specified that if Ziegler could not be found in his office, he should be directed to the final room in that location. This brief exchange served to coordinate an urgent meeting between the President and his press secretary.","topics":["Ron Ziegler","White House operations","Scheduling","Communication coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:10:33.076Z"},"topicSlugs":["ron-ziegler","white-house-operations","scheduling","communication-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":16,"audioFiles":[{"file":"398-002.mp3","bytes":397431,"durationSec":16.41,"bitrate":193711,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/398-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/398-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/398/conversation-398-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}