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Conversation 398-010

TapeTape 398StartFriday, January 19, 1973 at 5:56 PMEndFriday, January 19, 1973 at 6:40 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Rebozo, Charles G. ("Bebe");  Bull, Stephen B.;  Sanchez, ManoloRecording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On January 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:56 pm and 6:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 398-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 398-10 (cont’d)

                                                                    Conversation No. 398-10

Date: January 19, 1973
Time: Unknown before 5:56 pm and 6:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo.

       Greetings

Stephen B. Bull entered at 5:56 pm.

       President's schedule
             -Worship service
                    -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                    -Spiro T. Agnew
                    -Clergy
                    -President's role
                    -Mrs. Nixon
                    -Families
            -Receiving lines
                    -Agnew
                           -President, Mrs. Nixon
                           -Worship service, Blue Room
             -Seating at Kennedy Center
                    -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                    -William F. (“Billy”) Graham and wife
                    -J. Willard Marriott and wife
                    -Pamela Powell
                    -Grahams
                    -Marriotts
                    -Mrs. Nixon
                    -President
                    -Mamie G. D. Eisenhower
                    -Marriotts
                    -Tricia Nixon Cox, Edward R. F. Cox
                    -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                    -Nixon family
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                                                          Conversation No. 398-10 (cont’d)

                  -Marriotts, Grahams
                  -Rearranging seats

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:15 pm.

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       Rebozo’s schedule
            -Event
                  -Rose Mary Woods

       Hiring of Rita de Santis
             -John D. Ehrlichman
             -Herbert W. Kalmbach
             -Payroll
             -Social Security
             -Ehrlichman
             -Kalmbach
             -Julie Nixon Eisenhower

       President’s schedule

       Rebozo’s schedule
            -Watergate Shopping Mall

       -President’s schedule
             -President’s Inaugural speech
                   -Completion

       Rebozo’s schedule
            -Morale

       Unknown man
           -Support

       Refreshments
            -Manolo Sanchez
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                                                             Conversation No. 398-10 (cont’d)

       President’s dictation machine
             -Operation
             -Daily entries

The President resumed dictation at 6:15 pm.

       1973 Inauguration
            -President’s Inaugural speech
                  -Completion
            -Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s comment
                  -Past Inaugurations
                        -President’s involvement
                        -Franklin D. Roosevelt
            -Foreign policy

       Hiring of De Santis
             -Rebozo
             -Social security

       1973 Inauguration
            -President’s schedule
                  -Appearances
                  -Ceremony
                  -Parade
                  -Balls

The President stopped dictating at an unknown time before 6:40 pm.

       President’s dictation machine
             -Operation
                   -Sanchez
                   -Battery
             -Tape length

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:56 pm.

       Julie Nixon Eisenhower
             -President’s schedule

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:40 pm.
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                                                         Conversation No. 398-10 (cont’d)

       Unknown people
           -Comments
           -Age

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Rebozo left at an unknown time before 6:40 pm.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Well, baby, all right.
All right.
How you doing?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
And, uh, they, uh, there's a person next to me over there.
Yes, sir.
She told me.
It seems to me that, uh, she's on this house, and she told me.
And she told you?
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
And the instructor, you know, told me.
So, uh, yes, sir.
All right.
I believe that I was probably telling you that.
Yes, sir.
This, uh...
Oh, I understand, I'm sure.
We've started to fight it by ear.
Mr. President, do you want the Vice President to go over to the Wednesday morning service?
Yes.
Now, this time, I will not discard the ministries down.
The ministries will go down and enter.
They already go down and enter and take their places.
The next meeting has been inaugurated too, so then we'll take the vice president and the president.
Yes, he should be in the receiving line.
But not in the receiving line at the trip service.
That's right.
He should be in the Google.
What is the yātā?
What is the yātā?
uh i understood it i thought truly that uh he worked it out so that nobody was in the box except the six of us who will be
I'm sure they were invited to sit in my box.
Yes, sir.
That's 10 people.
Now, do they understand the word?
It's in the back row.
I don't want to sit by it.
Is that clear?
Or how would you have it set up?
First row.
This is 29th.
Second row.
There he is.
So the family's on the right side, and the visitors are on the left side.
They've already been told that there's a mission, and it doesn't seem like it.
Well, frankly, it seems to me that they have a lot of sense of the road, and they really ought to have the balance on the first road.
That's what they want to see, Steve.
They don't want to see...
The Marriotts would agree with me.
They do like to see them, but not that they can see them that way.
Are there six seats on the first row?
Because they don't have that number.
Five seats in the first row.
It's supposed to be boxed as well.
Then I won't have to talk to them.
Yeah, they should be seated in the second row.
Now that's, I don't know where you put this.
No, that's six, right?
We only have six.
You could put six of us.
on the first row that i would prefer the whole thing should be there in the first row and the rest should be in the second row okay
Well, I was going to ask you how everything went last night with the car wreck.
What was that?
I talked to Rose, too, and she said she was going to hear the cops.
I thought she was going to hear the cops.
What was that?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I've seen you guys there for another half a second or so, but I don't know how she did it for you.
Well, I'd say I'd ask her to do it, and she'd probably say, I was talking to her about it, and she was like, I don't know how she did it.
I don't know how she did it, but I don't know how she did it.
I don't know how she did it.
I don't know how she did it.
I don't know how she did it.
Is that it?
I wonder if you would take care of her?
The readouts that we're putting out is on my page.
And I want to make sure that we're in social security and all of that.
Just check with them.
And then tell them that I'm Julie.
And if you don't want them, I'm not going to do it, but I'm not going to do it.
I'm sorry.
The reader will be noted.
Oh, yes.
He knows that.
Everybody knows it.
But we have to set up a social security policy.
Because they're just checking for it.
It was a patient or somebody or a ground doctor who was, uh, running on the pursuit.
And it was, uh, it was Jim really who was, uh, saying, uh, I really thought I had it.
I mean, just, I got to do this for the response.
And, uh, yeah.
I mean, you know, that was, uh, that was great.
But, um, that's just one way to, you know, up around that.
And that's good.
So we decided that, yeah, we've got this situation.
We thought well, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was, and it was
What did you do today?
A lot of hurt.
It's a good word to have.
It's a good word to have.
That's all I have to do.
I don't know if that's the right word, but I don't know.
My wife would have heard me on the thing and said, there's something in there.
I had no idea what was going on.
I had no idea what was going on.
I had no idea what was going on.
I had no idea what was going on.
Well.
Oh, yes.
Or I was.
Yes.
... ... ... ... ...
Everybody's for him.
And he didn't say most everybody, he said everybody scored.
And everybody and so on.
Do you want a fellow to fix your drink?
No, I have to work.
That's the only area to fix it.
So you can say you didn't want to hear it.
I thought it was better than anything that this guy would go out of his way to tell me that.
Is it working all right?
Yeah, I know, uh, you can also use the plug-in little pins, but yeah, the back thing, uh, was rubbed out when I got back.
Today I turned it on and it didn't, uh... Do you know how to reverse it?
Oh, yeah, I know how to reverse it, yeah.
I'm, uh, dictating here the F of the...
Today is now 6 o'clock.
I don't think there's any other reason to say that long.
I just finished the inauguration at 6 o'clock.
And Christ made it remarkable that I possibly had a record now of having attended five conferences and participated in them.
uh, Roosevelt was a person who did not do his work, and I was the one who did not do his work, and I was the one who did not do his work.
On the other hand, I also participated in the search for the inauguration, and I was the one who did not do his work.
Roosevelt, of course, did not participate in the inauguration, and I was the one who did not do his work.
I don't know if you'd like to call it, but I was out of town yesterday, and I just wanted to get back to you.
It's a matter of time before I can call the rest of the staff this week.
So I'm going to have to respect the work that you're doing, and I think that's a good thing.
And I think that's a good thing.
And I think that's a good thing.
And I think that's a good thing.
We had a discussion about it last week, and I'm sure we'll get back to it.
I'm sure we'll get back to it.
I'm sure we'll get back to it.
I'm sure we'll get back to it.
I should just go for it.
I might make the first turn.
Most people have to leave in the summers, so I don't want to go to bed late at night to sleep, and then stand up and wait in the car for an hour, and then stand up.
And I had to do a parade for two hours and a half to three hours.
And I had to go to bed at night and play with my toys, and then I had to go to the 7 o'clock in the morning, which was quite early.
I had to do my homework and take care of the spade.
See, it works fine.
But he said, Manolo says you've got to turn this off.
And that's why I can't believe that.
No, it's here that this... And why, when I came back today, was it dead?
Was it dead when I connected it?
It was not dead.
Did I always do it?
No, no, no.
It was just dead.
The battery was just going to turn off.
It's better than the last two hours.
If I were to get a book here, I think that would be the best place to get it.
That's electrical plug-in.
Oh, it only lasts two hours?
Yeah, yeah.
At least that's what the guy told me.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I find it hard to believe that the tape was one hour.
One hour each side.
Now, it's hard for me to believe it.
That's what the channel told me.
But it is easy to just plug this in.
Which is checking to see if there's a patch in there.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Tell me how bad it was.
How are you?
With you?
Yeah.
Really?
They use those terms?
With what?
I mean, how old were you?
I mean, how old were you?
30?
25?
30?
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