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Conversation 004-003

TapeTape 4StartTuesday, June 1, 1971 at 6:28 PMEndTuesday, June 1, 1971 at 6:30 PMTape start time00:07:00Tape end time00:09:26ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Kissinger, Henry A.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On June 1, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 6:28 pm to 6:30 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 004-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 4-3

Date: June 1, 1971
Time: 6:28 pm - 6:30 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

[See Conversation No. 256-23]

     Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT], Antiballistic missile [ABM] treaty
           -Message to Soviet leaders
                -Dates
                -Content
           -Backgrounders
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Yeah.
Dr. Kissinger, Mr. President.
Yeah.
Hello.
Mr. President.
Yeah, Henry, what is the on-the-salt thing?
I was wondering about what precisely should be said.
I think I should indicate that I probably should use the date January 8th.
9th is actually the correct date.
But what do we what do we put out if we put that date out?
Yeah in all the corrected versions.
Yeah all right on January 9th I sent a message to the Soviet leaders.
Fine right and what do I say the message such that
I wouldn't go into any greater detail, which led to the...
Which led to the announcement on May 20th.
Well, that will... say which led to an exchange which produced the announcement.
I would make sure that you'd get in there somewhere that the Soviets also made a major contribution in this discussion.
And we describe it as, let me just, because I think it's well to get the description again, what can we say in the simplest terms?
Well, a communication with my ideas of how to break the deadlock.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, as to what we agreed.
What we agreed was that there would be... That we would concentrate this year.
Well, I wouldn't emphasize we would concentrate, that we would...
That's what it says.
I know, but that we'd work on ABM and that there would be simultaneously some agreement on offensive limitations.
On some agreement on offensive limitations.
Then they will ask you if the agreement on offensive limitations is going to be less formal.
Oh, that's a matter for negotiation.
I say it's a matter for negotiation, but if you wanted to expand, you could say...
The difference is that ABM covers the whole field, while offensive ones leave some matters out, and therefore...
I'm afraid to get into that.
Okay.
I don't think we better go beyond that.
Okay.
That can be done in background.
I've done that in background.
It's just a question of how much detail.
Okay, thanks.
Right.
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