Conversation 400-014

On January 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Raymond K. Price, Jr., Manolo Sanchez, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Walter R. Tkach, White House operator, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:00 pm to 6:30 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 400-014 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 400-14

Date: January 22, 1973
Time: 5:00 pm - 6:30 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Raymond K. Price, Jr.

       The President’s schedule
            -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

       The President’s speech on Vietnam settlement
            -Democrats
            -Length
            -Congressional leaders briefing

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:00 pm.

       Food order

       The President's schedule
            -Haldeman

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:10 pm.

       The President’s speech on Vietnam settlement
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            -Patrick J. Buchanan
            -Plans
            -Television [TV] coverage
            -California
            -Congressional relations
                  -Bipartisan leadership
                  -Committee chairmen
            -Timing
            -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                  -Meeting with Nguyen Van Thieu
            -Bipartisan support appeal by the President
                  -Lyndon B. Johnson
                  -Republicans, Democrats
            -TV coverage
            -Content
                  -Suggestions
                  -Bipartisan agreement
                  -Additions
            -Congressional relations
                  -The President's consultation
            -Points to make
                  -Public support [?]
                  -Congressional relations
                  -Negotiations
                         -Expectations
                  -Public support
                  -Public statements
                         -Ground rules for discussion
                  -Negotiations
                         -Sensitivity
                         -Bombing of North Vietnam
                         -Bipartisan leaders
                  -The President’s responsibility
                         -Complete disclosure
                         -World War II
                               -Ending

Haldeman entered at 5:10 pm.

            -Congressional relations
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      -Speech length
      -Turnout
      -Cooperation
      -"Peace With Honor"
      -TV coverage
-International cooperation
      -European security conference
      -World peace
-Concerns
-1972 election
-Negotiating terms
-Timing
-TV coverage
-Compared to 1972 Moscow Summit
-Congressional relations
-Buchanan
-Haldeman’s call to Haig
-Agreement
      -Initialing
             -Paris
      -Signing
      -Henry A. Kissinger
-Congressional relations
-Importance
-Revisions
      -Tone
             -Defensiveness
-Reaction [?]
      -Public sector
      -Private sector
-Republicans
-Thieu [?]
-Negotiations
      -Propaganda
      -Public reaction
-Congressional audience
-Home audience
-Congressional relations
      -Difficulties
-Points to make
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                                                   Conversation No. 400-14 (cont’d)

     -Congressional relations

Unknown person’s schedule

Washington National Cathedral
    -Francis Sayre
    -The President's possible attendance
          -Harry S. Truman’s memorial service

The President’s speech on Vietnam settlement
     -Johnson [?]
     -Doubts
     -Revisions
           -First part
           -Haldeman’s suggestions
     -Allies
     -George S. McGovern’s statements
     -Prisoners of War [POWs] [?]
     -Buchanan
     -Agreement
           -Value

Johnson’s health [?]
     -Protocol [?]
     -US politics
     -Herbert C. Hoover
     -Dwight D. Eisenhower
     -William H. Taft
     -Warren G. Harding
           -Death in Office
     -[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson
     -Theodore Roosevelt
           -Death
     -Death
           -Timing
     -Past recoveries [?]

The President’s speech on Vietnam settlement
     -The President's appearance before Congress
           -Symbolism
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                         -End of war
                         -Congress’ responsibility
                              -Maintenance of peace
                              -Aid to South Vietnam
                              -Aid to North Vietnam
             -Future developments
                   -Cambodia
             -TV coverage
             -Congressional relations
                   -Briefing
                         -Leadership
                   -Confidentiality
                   -House of Representatives
                   -Bryce Harlow
                   -John D. Ehrlichman
                   -Clark MacGregor
                   -William E. Timmons

Stephen B. Bull entered at 5:55 pm.

             -Johnson’s health
                  -Aircraft
                  -Possible death
                  -Change in the President’s schedule
                        -Congress
                  -Hospital

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:00 pm.

                   -Possible death
                         -Reaction
                   -Doctors

       Past President’s health
             -Harry S. Truman
             -Kennedy
             -Eisenhower
                   -Concerns
                   -Heart attacks
             -Johnson
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                       -Concerns

Haldeman talked with Gen. Walter R. Tkach at an unknown time between 5:55 pm and 6:19 pm.

[Conversation No. 400-14A]

[See Conversation No. 36-49]

[End of telephone conversation]

        Johnson’s health
             -Condition
             -Tkach [?]

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        The President’s speech on Vietnam settlement
             -William P. Rogers [?]
             -Press relations [?]
             -The President’s error
             -Revisions
                   -Public statements about negotiations
                   -Military activity
                   -Haig [?]
                   -Obligation
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                                                             Conversation No. 400-14 (cont’d)

Tkach talked with Haldeman between 5:55 pm and 6:19 pm.

[Conversation No. 400-14B]

[See Conversation No. 36-50]

[End of telephone conversation]

       Johnson’s health
            -Air shuttle
            -Condition

[The above part of the office conversation took place simultaneously with Conversation No. 400-
14B.]

                   -Lack of doctor at Johnson ranch
                   -Trip to hospital
                   -Tkach's information
                         -[First name unknown] Vogel

       The President’s speech on Vietnam settlement
            -Prisoners of War [POWs]
            -Johnson

Tkach talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 5:55 pm and 6:19 pm.

[Conversation No. 400-14C]

[See Conversation No. 36-51]

[End of telephone conversation]

       Johnson's heath
            -Revival
                  -Airplane
            -Death
                  -Announcement
                  -Effect
            -Meeting
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                                                              Conversation No. 400-14 (cont’d)

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:55 pm and
6:19 pm.

[Conversation No. 400-14D]

[See Conversation No. 36-52]

[End of telephone conversation]

       The President's schedule
            -The President’s speech on Vietnam settlement
                  -Postponement

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:55 pm.

             -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                    -Dinner

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:19 pm.

       The President's speech on Vietnam settlement
            -Timing
            -Content
                  -The President’s suggestions
            -Haig's review of draft

The President talked with Haig between 6:19 pm and 6:22 pm.

[Conversation No. 400-14E]

[See Conversation No. 36-53]

[End of telephone conversation]

       Johnson's death
            -Burial
            -Lying in state at Capitol
            -Washington National Cathedral
                  -Possible memorial service
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                                                             Conversation No. 400-14 (cont’d)

       The President's speech on Vietnam settlement
            -The President's schedule

       The President's statement on Johnson's death

       The President's speech on Vietnam settlement
            -Content
                  -Length
                  -Accomplishments

The President, et al., left at 6:30 pm.

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Ok. Ok.
Ok, ok, ok, ok.
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Her's the game plan.
I'm not sure how it works.
I'm not sure how it works.
I'm not sure how it works.
I'm not sure how it works.
I'm not sure how it works.
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By...
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Følelsen pågår i veldig svært større størrelse.
Det er større størrelse.
Det er større størrelse.
All over the place, I couldn't share it.
I couldn't find out the rest of it.
I couldn't get it.
But it's a little, a little graceful.
It's not a bad idea.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
It's a good thing.
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I take action.
I take action.
I take action.
I take action.
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Fødselskapet.
I was looking at you, and I was like, what is it to say what you got to say?
I was like, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Eriko.
Eriko.
Eriko.
Søren Søren Søren
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Søren Frihjøs, Frihjøs, Frihjøs, Frihjøs, Frihjøs, Frihjøs, Frihjøs,
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Ok. Det er fett, ja.
Nå er vi i stedet for å kontaktere alle de andre.
Nå er vi i stedet for å kontaktere alle de andre.
Nå er vi i stedet for å kontaktere alle de andre.
Nå er vi i stedet for å kontaktere alle de andre.
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I don't want to get out.
I've got a question I want to ask you, Joe.
You can say you're not in a safe zone, and you're not in a state where you're not in a state where you're not in a state where you're not in a state where you're not in a state
Ja.
Ja.
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1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
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All right, you can check this one.
Check this one now.
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Ja.
Ja.
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Nå er vi igjen.
Nå er vi igjen.
Nå er vi igjen.
Det er i dag.
Det er i dag.
Det er i dag.
Det er i dag.
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I request that you have a witness to check out some of the things you saw.
I pray that you can see them.
I think it's a good thing to do.
Well, it's not her at all.
Thank you.
I just want you to know that you're going to be glad.
You're going to come here.
You need to have the right to be here.
You're going to have a lot of money in your pocket.
Well,
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Når du går ut i stedet, når du går ut i stedet, når du går ut i stedet, når du går ut i stedet, når du går ut i stedet, når du går ut i stedet, når du går ut i stedet,
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Teksting av Nicolai Winther
Nå går vi ut i fjellet.
Nå går vi ut i fjellet.
Nå går vi ut i fjellet.
Ja, vi har stått her.
Vi har stått her.
Vi har stått her.
Vi har stått her.
Teksting av Nicolai Winther
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Hei.
Det var bra.
Ja, det var bra.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Vi har en rådgivning.
Vi har en rådgivning.
Vi har en rådgivning.
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I think, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er.
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Nå er vi i stedet.
Nå er vi i stedet.
Nå er vi i stedet.
Ok.
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3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
Fødselveien er rett.
5 km.
Fødselveien er rett.
5 km.
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Det var en av de stående stående.
Det var en av de stående.
Det var en av de stående.
Det var en av de stående.
Nå er vi igjen.
Nå er vi igjen.
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Råstegn har jeg sett på de ideelle støttene.
Det var på de ideelle støttene.
Det var på de ideelle støttene.
Råstegn har jeg sett på de ideelle støttene.
Why don't you go to the bathroom?
We can go to the bathroom.
We can go to the bathroom.
We can go to the bathroom.
We can go to the bathroom.
We can go to the bathroom.
We can go to the bathroom.
We can go to the bathroom.
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It's going to be like, like Cambodia.
I don't know how many times you've heard of it.
I don't know how many times you've heard of it.
I don't know how many times you've heard of it.
I don't know how many times you've heard of it.
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If it's, if it's, if it's going to later, you know, change the way it's going to be, you're going to really try to, you're going to try to, you're going to try to, you're going to try to,
I don't think that's a problem.
I think we can talk about that.
If you go back to the five years before, it was so long ago.
I agree.
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Ok.
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Let me try to speak to the light.
All right.
All right.
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But I still would like to do this.
That's the reason I'm there, so maybe the governor will see me.
Thank you, baby.
I have my food on the table.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Ok. Ok.
Let's figure it out.
I think that's it.
I'm sure we've got to do that.
I'm sure we've got to do that.
I'm sure we've got to do that.
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I was, I was having a crazy story, but I wasn't thinking about choosing you.
And I was wrong.
You know, sir.
You know, you just, you just, you know, the greatest cannot be over, over, you know, free.
It must be over.
It must be over.
But you can say it.
The way I have rewritten your story, sir, to evade any other statements during the past few months,
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But I would like you to do what you have to do.
You can do it.
Nå er vi igjen.
Nå er vi igjen.
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And it would only have happened if I had the only way to fight it, the aggression, which would lead to another war.
I wonder if, well, if we're closing on the two of us now, it's possible that we should close on the other side.
Det var en av de stående stående stående.
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Nå er det nytt dag.
Nå er det nytt dag.
Nå er det nytt dag.
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I like to say that I'm curious about that.
I mean, maybe it's something that we expect to get back in time.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Føleløp.
Føleløp.
Føleløp.
I should like to talk to you about that.
I should like to fight you for a while, but I don't think I can.
I'm over it.
I'll get this back if you forget what I'd like to do.
Take a look at this.
But if you decide to over it, over your ground, you can't be available.
Now, the question is, I wonder, what do you think about this?
Well, right in front of us now has a blue ticket.
I was wondering if it happens around 8 o'clock in the afternoon.
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I gotta think it's better if you've got the office on the line.
Yeah, right.
Right.
Okay, that's out of the way.
We'll be available at 8 o'clock.
I think it's time to go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Ok, takk for det.