{"conversationCode":"401-012","tapeNumber":401,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-401-012","startDateTime":"1973-01-09T20:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-09T20:03:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Jan-1973","startTime":"3:02 PM","endDate":"9-Jan-1973","endTime":"3:03 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On January 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:02 pm to 3:03 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 401-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 401-12\n\nDate: January 9, 1973\nTime: 3:02 pm - 3:03 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.\n\n[See Conversation No. 35-114]","filename":["401-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"401-011","nextCode":"401-013","transcript":[{"start":0.35,"end":0.91,"text":"Good."},{"start":4.24,"end":20.45,"text":"Allow me over at six sharp, sir."},{"start":20.47,"end":21.17,"text":"Yeah, I took you right on the nose."},{"start":25.11,"end":26.52,"text":"Did you read it?"},{"start":26.54,"end":27.24,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":30.05,"end":47.92,"text":"What place?"},{"start":47.94,"end":53.66,"text":"I'm not saying that's the first place we've been."},{"start":53.69,"end":54.19,"text":"I think it's right there."},{"start":54.21,"end":54.27,"text":"Oh."},{"start":54.29,"end":55.59,"text":"Yeah, very good, but I just thought I was going to check it."},{"start":55.61,"end":57.37,"text":"Yeah, well, I'm going to bring him up to the back there, because it's part of the story."},{"start":57.39,"end":59.13,"text":"Well, I'm not sure if that's your problem, but this is just different from what I feel."},{"start":59.15,"end":59.97,"text":"It's all very different from what I feel."},{"start":60.59,"end":70.09,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":70.25,"end":75.48,"text":"You know, I've been thinking a lot about that."},{"start":75.56,"end":76,"text":"I agree."},{"start":76.02,"end":78.64,"text":"I think it's better to bring it up."},{"start":78.66,"end":78.76,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":79.04,"end":85.57,"text":"Just, it'll work, because the whole key to it is to get the second person, like, you know, maybe an oppressed person, like, to get that girl who's like, you know,"},{"start":87.06,"end":88.56,"text":"Bye."},{"start":88.58,"end":91.21,"text":"Bye."},{"start":91.23,"end":93.58,"text":"Bye."},{"start":93.6,"end":93.94,"text":"Bye."},{"start":93.96,"end":102.35,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, held a brief, informal meeting to discuss the drafting of a personal narrative or story. The conversation focused on narrative structure and the effective inclusion of specific characters, particularly the role of an 'oppressed' individual, to strengthen the work's impact. The exchange concluded with a mutual agreement on the suggested approach for developing the project.","topics":["Personal Narrative","Julie Nixon Eisenhower","Editorial Advice","Storytelling","Family"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T18:16:07.114Z"},"topicSlugs":["personal-narrative","julie-nixon-eisenhower","editorial-advice","storytelling","family"],"audioDurationSec":102,"audioFiles":[{"file":"401-012.mp3","bytes":2458829,"durationSec":102.31,"bitrate":192271,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:45.438Z","transcriptGapSeconds":34,"transcriptGapShare":0.33,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/401-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/401-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/401/conversation-401-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}